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  1. #11
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I think the most likely solution is going to be:
    - anyone that won a plot, keeps the plot, regardless of the RNG possibly being faulty (which is pure speculation by some)
    - all other plots are back up in the next lottery session

    While I personally think that non-competitive bids should be allocated those plots, I don't think they will do that. Consider the following, there were 100,000 plots in this lottery across all servers. They would have to get eyeballs on exactly which plots were effected by this bug and whether they were non-competitive bids. Then, they'd have to figure out which player(s) took their refunds and which didn't. And somehow... get just those players to submit their gil through some method that they'd have to design, test, integrate, test and test again. All the while, keeping all lottery frozen until this is sorted out. Mind you, that's just the high high level on this. I don't write software for SE. I think they are very talented to do what they did this far (aside from this bug).

    The "safe" path is to award no plots to those with the "0 winner" bug. Just let everyone get the refund they deserve and do it again. Not ideal for those should-be winners. I'll be surprised if they award those plots in some other manner.

    I also think a complete redo of this lottery is off the table. If the making the "0 winner" ticket holders whole by giving them a plot is too difficult to pull off, certainly redoing the entire lottery and making millions of players whole across all servers is a huge undertaking.
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  2. #12
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    Blackwaltz Four
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    Balmung
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    Well no one is going to lose a house they won today regardless of botched system. The best they can hope for is the devs add more servers and wards and let them try again next week.
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    Dolly Derringer
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    Jenova
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    I expect them to realize this was a lost cause and add instanced housing to solve 90% of their problems.
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  4. #14
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    the ward where I put my bid on, half of the houses bid on won/lost to the number 5
    certainly an odd thing to see- *puts tin foil hat on*
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    Virae Kiran
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    What I expect:
    "We're really sorry, good luck next week"

    What I hope for:
    "We're really sorry, we have a list of every bid on every plot and will reroll all that ended with a 0 ticket"
    As someone on Materia, I also really hope they reconsider the 75% FC house limit, I think there are more FC only plots on my server than there are players...so if you look at every person in your FC, that's 1 house that will never sell.

    I really doubt they would even entertain the idea of doing a full reroll and possibly taking away plots from people who got announced the winners of their lottery.
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  6. #16
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    Tai Natuia
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 85
    I expect them to stop making 0 an entry to participate in the housing lottery when it belongs to no one. I expect everyone who lost to no one to actually get the house they bid on. I will not except people needed to wait more weeks to see if the same issue occurs again. People won fair, but lost because they never omitted 0 as a probable lottery number. At this point I would go as far as not taking gil from people due to how frustrated I am, but would rather they take the measly 3 mil than make everyone wait another week. If this is not fixed properly I will unsub. May sound brash, but this will be the last issue on the mountain of issues I brushed off because I really do enjoy this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    the ward where I put my bid on, half of the houses bid on won/lost to the number 5
    certainly an odd thing to see- *puts tin foil hat on*
    That sounds exactly like ffxiv rng to me. Everything seems to be working as intended. It is similar when gathering and crafting you can predict when you are meant to lose materials and when you will get lucky excellent quality on an item. I admit that I am lazy and really should have been keeping track of many things, because I could probably release some underground way to predict the jumbo cactpot. Also the fact that my partner has been fishing for fat cat minions, when he first started he got three, it has been almost a year and still none. Now if he eventually gets 3 more in a row or discovers that sending out the retainer at a certain time effected it, my mind will be blown and may have unlocked the secrets of eorzea.
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    Last edited by Faafetai; 04-17-2022 at 12:26 PM.

  7. #17
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    Evangellin Thorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    I think its fair to say this blunder is going to have severe consequences for the dev team.

    Not only do they have to find and address the issue, but also come to a decision on the plot allocations that were already won.

    Were the plots that won, a result of the bug?
    Who knows, Nobody is going to believe they lost fairly.

    To those who were the sole bidders on a plot, are you going to be allocated the plot or forced to sit through another stressful housing lottery?

    People that were sole bidders SHOULD be allocated the plot they were bidding on, and not forced to be put through the system again.
    so much this. we know they will fix it; they do a good job of staying on top of issues, BUT this is the crux of the issue: not the speed of the fix, but the arrangement. will they be able to take the original bidders into consideration? I hope so.
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  8. #18
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    Katori Scarlet
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    Well I've been thinking about this basically all night. Placed a bid on a house with my FC lost it to the final person to place a bid. Ok w/e bad RNG try again. Walked around to all the large plots saw that a vast majority went to the last person to place a bid. Idk if its coincidence or not but seems really sketchy to me.

    As for what I'd like. Yea I'd be perfectly fine if they did a server rollback but they chose not to after the issue was brought to their attention. So ill accept that it won't happen.

    However we have a right to know what caused the bug, what the fix is. Re-roll the 0 participants houses because while ill agree it sucks no matter what people do, someone loses somewhere. Now the next thing is either announce instanced housing that u can upgrade to large housing Or add 10 more wards to every district.

    Lately it feels like the devs have been distancing themselves from the community based on a few observations. Not gonna list them off as they don't relate to this thread. The point is they badly need to publicly talk about these things.
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  9. #19
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    They won't say exactly what happened. They never get very technical anyways. If it is a thing where they forgot the +1 offset that would mean nobody who won actually won, and they're not going to undo that. Better for them not to get into the details.

    Most likely they'll fix the code and that'll be it.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Zenitoria Blastidia
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    Ragnarok
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    WORRIED ABOUT HOUSING

    my friend and I have been saving since January for a company house, we tried so hard and was crafting every day non stop to save the money up, we both bid for a house and both got the problem saying there is no participant and the winning number is 0, now I am so disappointed and upset, and we were the only bidder for the 2 houses. I really really hope they can correct this and make compensation by allocating the house to me, which is what I should have got.
    I will fight for my rightful house at all cost!!
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