New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[Denji]

Based on translation from Patch Notes reading:

Do they think we're stupid? We've been repeatedly telling them that people who break the tos and mod their game have had this figured out for literal years now. It isn't that hard of a problem to solve.

[Minali]

Do they think we're stupid? We've been repeatedly telling them that people who break the tos and mod their game have had this figured out for literal years now. It isn't that hard of a problem to solve.

With all due respect, modders can make a thing look good and get the best out of what they have to work with. That doesn't mean the programming in the backend is sound and it can just be carried over with copy + paste. (This is not an attack on modders, you are doing the best you can!) This quote sounds more like this is about adressing a core problem and making it work with the system better. A mod only has to work on your end, it certainly makes a difference when it has to be like this for everyone. As someone who worked in a game's QA and Level Design for a while (not on SE games), what sounds like a simple problem is often a symptom of a complex issue, and therefore what looks like a simple solution might break something you wouldn't expect. Or at least not achieve any actual improvement.

[Denji]

With all due respect, modders can make a thing look good and get the best out of what they have to work with. That doesn't mean the programming in the backend is sound and it can just be carried over with copy + paste. (This is not an attack on modders, you are doing the best you can!) This quote sounds more like this is about adressing a core problem and making it work with the system better. A mod only has to work on your end, it certainly makes a difference when it has to be like this for everyone. As someone who worked in a game's QA and Level Design for a while (not on SE games), what sounds like a simple problem is often a symptom of a complex issue, and therefore what looks like a simple solution might break something you wouldn't expect. Or at least not achieve any actual improvement.

Fine. Give me my (or them, if you're referring to modders) dued respect.

It's a model, there isn't backend programming. It a few pooygons and a texture and there was already someone like you pulling random excuses out of nowhere and inventing scenarios to justify square.

Square doesn't need you to defend them nor do they need you to make up excuses. They're a multi-million dollar company who could have easily afforded to pay a sngle dev for 4-5 weeks to adjust a few models.

This isn't rocket science. They are not a small, struggling company. They had 3+ years of record profits.

[Vahlnir]

Do they think we're stupid? We've been repeatedly telling them that people who break the tos and mod their game have had this figured out for literal years now. It isn't that hard of a problem to solve.

Yeah, I'm not buying their excuses anymore, especially after the housing mess and this. I'm done being Mr. Nice Guy. My respect for the dev team is on a downward slide. If they can't respect the players at this point, then they won't get any in return. Not from me, anyway.

[HeyMcFly]

Do they think we're stupid? We've been repeatedly telling them that people who break the tos and mod their game have had this figured out for literal years now. It isn't that hard of a problem to solve.

It's not that they think we're stupid- Maybe when the XIV team goes to get player feedback, they have to wear a blindfold and pick a number from One to One Million so then Chad Girthquakes horrible suggestion to add 2-B hair for M. Hrothgar for memes is chosen- But if the dev team get's a number that doesn't have a suggestion, it's another 2-3 years back to the drawing board. Do not pass go, do not collect good hairstyles or 200$ and instead add another terrible looking outfit. - atleast that's my guess

And as far as the modders go- they have some AMAZING creations- and it hurts to see the hairs and features we are stuck with in FFXIV, then go see the hairs and features the modders have created (which are often incredible) then told we cannot have them & it's against the rules.

Just add a new hairstyle contest. And pick 10 winners per category- make categories for Male & Female Miqote, Viera, Lalafell, Elezen, Roegadyn, Humans, Au Ra. That way the focus is creating hairstyles specifically for those races & genders that then can be added for everyone at a later time- because trying to make universal hairstyles can often lead to VERY boring & disappointing results -gestures broadly at the current hairstyles-

I'd like to see the data they look at to decide what hairs to implement- I'm still waiting for Yshtola's hair to be added to F. Viera-
But I also think they should just design unique hairs for Viera & Hroth so that they keep their beastial uniqueness.

I can't find a suggestions thread about adding new emotes to umbrellas, or the punch emote or an eating egg emote. Where do they decide to add this stuff? Because it looks like more people want new hairs/ new housing features, new character customization- not if they can eat an egg or not. They could be working on updating the character creator and making it more versatile and on par with what modders can dish out.

Just imagine the features we could have if the time put into story was also put into hairstyles/ character features- I think it's just as important since the story involves our characters and we see alot of up-close encounters with them.