New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[GaleMex]

Wow! Transphobia, homophobia, and acephobia all packaged in one place! Nice!

[Denji]

It’s a bit funny to me that people are trying to argue that hrothgar’s got this treatment because they’re a minority. Okay…so then what are we going to call the people that SE is pandering to with the un-genderlocking outfits? Guarantee they’re more of a minority than hrothgar players lmao.

i'm not sure if you're aware but nothing is stopping a straight person from wearing any clothing they want except people who feel the need to gatekeep *checks notes* ... pieces of digital fabric made of textures and polygons in a fantasy world?

like dang wait until you hear about entire cultures irl that wear garments that aren't just trousers and t-shirts.

[ErryK]

It’s a bit funny to me that people are trying to argue that hrothgar’s got this treatment because they’re a minority. Okay…so then what are we going to call the people that SE is pandering to with the un-genderlocking outfits? Guarantee they’re more of a minority than hrothgar players lmao.

what exactly were you trying to achieve coming into a thread about people criticizing square's decisions on hrothgar hairstyles to mock the people posting in here? with homophobia and transphobia as ammunition, no less. i know what you are.

[SherlottaEryut]

Guys, just drop the subject. This thread’s about Hrothgar’s issue - don’t derail the topic

[Balmung_Griffin]

At this point, I think we're barking at the wrong tree.
I don't think they look at feedback here at all, however I know they look at in game feedback (Support Desk, Contact Us, Leave a Suggestion).

Maybe it's better if we create a template and send that in game twice a week, every week till they actually listen.

[Karowolus]

At this point, I think we're barking at the wrong tree.
I don't think they look at feedback here at all, however I know they look at in game feedback (Support Desk, Contact Us, Leave a Suggestion).

Maybe it's better if we create a template and send that in game twice a week, every week till they actually listen.

Whilst this could be a possibility, we also know that some GMs are just useless. But it could very well be worth giving this a try.

[GaleMex]

For whatever it's worth, I'd absolutely give it a shot if someone does come up with one.

[Denji]

Whilst this could be a possibility, we also know that some GMs are just useless. But it could very well be worth giving this a try.

ok.
so.
let's not start attacking GMs here. they have nothing to do with this decision and most don't even remotely have any direct contact with the devs. yoshi-p has stated multiple times from when they re-opened the forums to the most recent expansion that the devs themselves read the forums directly. it's why the forums were re-opened in the first place.

[Starshower]

I think it's likely that they did a poor job wording the patch notes. I believe we will be able to not only change hairstyle on the aesthetician, but also select between 16 (!) racial hairstyles with ears included (beyond the newly added earless ones).


Here is my reasoning. They said thet removed the facial feature that would add an extra bit of hair to your hairstyle, and added that to the hairstyles section. Now think... Hrothgars don't currenlty have a hairstyle section. I think in this hairstyle section they'd have the new ones but also 2 versions of each of the other face's hairstyle, one with the extra bit of hair plucked from facial features, and another without. So that makes 16 different hairstyles with ears every hroth could choose from.

Why don't I think it will be just 2 hairstyles for that face type? If the hairstyles selection (the racial one with the stuff from facial features) is happening in the hairstyle section, the face section would be just that, picking between the 4 faces. The hairstyles section would need to have the 2 variations, since you'd need to be able to change between the hairstyle with and without the added bit, meaning the face selection wouldn't have a hairstyle baked on. And what happens when you switch from face 1 to face 2, but you had the hairstyle that usually comes from face 1 selected in the hairstyles section? the face 2 would be wearing that same hairstyle as well. That's the behavior that happens when changing faces currently in the game for races that have a hairstyles section. So it would make to reason then that all 16 racial hairstyle variations would be in that section, usable in all 4 faces. And you know what races with a hairstyles section on character creation also have? A hairstyles section on the aesthetician! I think our case is closed!



Also, something of note in regards to hrothgar customization, in place of that removed facial feature, they're adding a brand new one!





The coeurl faced hroths will have an option for these scars on their forehead! I wonder what will be the new facial detail added as an option for the other 3 faces!


So in the end, don't despair, my hroth friends, from what it looks like we'll have more customization than ever, and you won't have to sacrifice your ears, if you don't like the earless hairstyles you'll have 16 options with ears that fit the hrothgar race!

[Nekuroi]

At this point, I think we're barking at the wrong tree.
I don't think they look at feedback here at all, however I know they look at in game feedback (Support Desk, Contact Us, Leave a Suggestion).

Maybe it's better if we create a template and send that in game twice a week, every week till they actually listen.

If wasn't the new PF rules I would've created one for protest already (Roulette staying on top and asking for better care)
But I'm coming here and on twitter almost everyday, I'm down for this. Might be annoying for some people, but won't be more annoying than to endure what we got.