PvP Rewards New and Old - Why repeat past mistakes?

[Garten]

You cant even imagine how much i had to work when i got the Field Commander set. Now One can afk every 4 days and get It with 0 effort. Am i ok with this? Well i am conflicted.

I think i am not a bad pvp player.. honestly? I think i am above average.. but.. Is there 100 people Better than me on Chaos? Maybe ...

So what Is my point? My point Is that i dont think stuff should get handed easily.. but i still think everyone should have a way to get It.. AT LEAST in a damn game.. i beat elder ring few days ago and It was a pain, but i endured It and made It..

To make an example instead of the First x people, the glam could have be given After x victories, where x Is a really BIG Number in that season..

[Zetlin]

but.. this new system is already much more accessible rewards wise. and about how much it takes to grind, you have about a patch to grind it or if you don't feel like it, a patch to buy it with the new currency, and if you don't get it, you won't surely die over some pixels that you probably won't use because most people just go for modern day glamours.

Better does not mean good, it's just better. I would go so far as to say the new proposed system is simply just 'okay' but is it by no means good or acceptable to have rewards drop off after one patch cycle. In the most harsh interpretation as a consumer, I pay for the box and the subscription and I should receive the product in its entirety for the length of its life. Any developer not doing this with their product won't receive my money. This is why I choose to play FF. To see them work against the players with PvP rewards is counter to everything else I've seen in this game in terms of design for longevity and the principle of not removing content. They have gone way out of their way to preserve old content over the years, why should PvP rewards be different?

[Iscah]

but.. this new system is already much more accessible rewards wise. and about how much it takes to grind, you have about a patch to grind it

We have about a patch to grind it.

People who start playing in nine months' time, in a game that aspires to run for decades, have no chance at all to grind for it even if they would be willing to do so.

[Iscah]

You cant even imagine how much i had to work when i got the Field Commander set. Now One can afk every 4 days and get It with 0 effort. Am i ok with this? Well i am conflicted.

I try to play Seal Rock regularly and I certainly cannot just AFK and win. I try my best but I am really quite useless at PVP and I am despairing of ever getting that one either.

Still, on pure average, "AFKing once every four days" gets you 91 tries per year so dumb luck will mean it takes you over three years to acquire it.

[Colt47]

Well, that and this season is literally a rerun of the Garo gear. That has to be licensed and everything so most likely this is kind of a test run to see how reception is. My guess is that no one is going to like rotating armor sets and we'll return to better systems that give accessibility through personal effort, rather than being present for a limited time offer.

[Lau298]

isn't it how all battlepasses now work? battlepasses also being very popular in pvp games too.

[Ransu]

I see no reason at all why this game pvp should be the only content that gets time exlusive rewards that can never be obtained again.

lol what? There's a bunch of pve items that you can no longer get in the game from limited run events. Yes, some of them come back, but its never guaranteed and I think its perfectly fine that way.

[Imsoangry]

lol what? There's a bunch of pve items that you can no longer get in the game from limited run events. Yes, some of them come back, but its never guaranteed and I think its perfectly fine that way.

Name any, other than 1.0 items then. Compare that to the amount of ranked pvp exclusive items. Yeah. It's pretty much guaranteed at this point, that event items ultimately end up in the cash shop sooner or later.

[Zetlin]

Name any, other than 1.0 items then. It's pretty much guaranteed at this point, that event items ultimately end up in the cash shop sooner or later.

Not only in the cash shop but they also just return as well. Square knows we want this, and they provide. It must be said again there is no reason PvP should be treated any differently.

[Nanne]

There are some things outside PvP and 1.0 like old seasonal event achievements, pre order items, Firmament achievements/titles, items/emotes from codes that are tied to things like statue purchases. MMO's are pretty much always bad games for players who like to collect