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  1. #11
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    Azuri's Avatar
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    I'm actually looking forward to well made slightly-more-furry female miqote with none of the male Hrothgar restrictions. Just to drive the point home and pour some salt on the wound.
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    Caur Kagon
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    I thought people want female Hrothgar to look the same as male though?
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    Elodie Claire
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    There's literally no angle with Female Hrothgar that won't piss off a large segment of the community.

    Every single time a developer inlcudes a race like this, it causes problems, it's just Worgen all over again. Everyone wants something different and the demand is extremely minor and confused and at odds with the development pipeline.

    Feel bad for both the fans of Hroth and the devs, honestly.
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  4. #14
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapleine View Post
    There's literally no angle with Female Hrothgar that won't piss off a large segment of the community.
    There's no angle they can take with anything that won't piss off a large segment of the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    There's no angle they can take with anything that won't piss off a large segment of the community.
    I have no retort.
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    There's no angle they can take with anything that won't piss off a large segment of the community.
    Except unless if they actually communicated and were more transparent. For example as i said, in this situation they could have done a poll to see which hairstyles hrothgar players would be interested in, rather than choosing it themselves and half adding it like they have now and then laughing about it.
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  7. #17
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    I thought people want female Hrothgar to look the same as male though?
    Usually people point to karmaho's fan art for what people generally want. They don't tend to look like the males. They look more like what you'd expect for female big cats, but anthropormorphized and with long smooth hair.

    And honestly ANY design will be met with backlash, guys. Not only is it normal for literally any MMO, we're the FFXIV community. We're known for being whiny. Just look at what's going on with the job changes; half of them are totally harmless, yet people's knickers get twisted regardless. That isn't an excuse to not do stuff and try. A lot of people cringed at Au Ra reveal, a lot of people cringed at Male Viera reveal. A lot of people to this day look at anything that isn't a Hyur and complain. It's not an argument one should make.

    You can't please everyone. And it's fine. But it's better to please the majority of people you know would play the race you're developping rather than alienating them. Like the hairstyles they presented.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 04-03-2022 at 08:17 AM.

  8. #18
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Except unless if they actually communicated and were more transparent. For example as i said, in this situation they could have done a poll to see which hairstyles hrothgar players would be interested in, rather than choosing it themselves and half adding it like they have now and then laughing about it.
    Agreed, they are a well resourced, very large company - they have the means to interact with their consumers directly through surveys etc. They don't need to restrict themselves to sifting through feedback on social media sites... although even that would've been better than the abominations they ended up releasing. I don't have a great deal of sympathy for them with how things were handled.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  9. #19
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    Ara Amai
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    There's no angle they can take with anything that won't piss off a large segment of the community.
    Have you ever thought that they actually have been fucking up constantly? This dev team isn't perfect and it goes to show every time more.
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  10. #20
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Except unless if they actually communicated and were more transparent. For example as i said, in this situation they could have done a poll to see which hairstyles hrothgar players would be interested in, rather than choosing it themselves and half adding it like they have now and then laughing about it.
    And do you really think that the people who lost the poll wouldn't be pissed off and very vocal about it?

    I'm not in any way excusing the mess, but this community makes a collective hobby of getting mad about every little thing.
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