PvP Rewards New and Old - Why repeat past mistakes?

[Jeeqbit]

The new reward system is a lot better, because you no longer have to get into the top 100 to get the rewards.

Getting into the top 100 was impossible when the average win rate in the matching system was 33%. You require a win rate over 50% to progress into the top 100. Whether that was because of win trading I don't know. Even though I didn't die and was a team player that went on the same target as everyone else, that was my win rate after doing pvp all day for a few days. I shouldn't have to pvp that much and still fail to come close to qualifying for the rewards.

I don't think that the rewards should be seasonal, but it's still an improvement because now it will actually be possible for me to get the rewards.

[Nanne]

Getting into the top 100 was impossible when the average win rate in the matching system was 33%. You require a win rate over 50% to progress into the top 100.

You can get to diamond (2000+ rating) with under 50% winrate. You only go down 25 rating when you lose in diamond Before that its anywhere from -5 to -20

[Ascended_Demon]

They had said in a previous LL that the new currency can be exchanged for previous "season" rewards. All you have to do to earn the currency is play the new PvP mode.

Yes and in this LL they said the previous season rewards only stay for one patch then they're out. OP actually brought this up in the third post.

[Raoabolic]

Limited items makes them unique. I have no problem with the concept.

Same here. I find it very confusing when people get so upset about it. It's a way to reward players that have been playing for a while, I'm not happy when they tie game items to cash shops or physical items but limited time event items tend to be cool and actually unique. Oh well. *drives off on a SDS Fenrir*

[RyuDragnier]

Yes and in this LL they said the previous season rewards only stay for one patch then they're out. OP actually brought this up in the third post.

I'm checking the notes and I see them saying nothing of the sort. Do you have a link to the actual statement, or at least a screen capture of where it's stated? I'm checking Nova Crystallis, btw.

[Ascended_Demon]

I'm checking the notes and I see them saying nothing of the sort. Do you have a link to the actual statement, or at least a screen capture of where it's stated? I'm checking Nova Crystallis, btw.

https://discord.com/channels/1004639...50271652659232 this translation from the official FFXIV discord says as much. Of course there is room for error in translation.

[RyuDragnier]

That tries to throw me into Discord proper. You happen to have a screenshot of that?

[Ascended_Demon]

[RyuDragnier]

Oof. I really hope he backs from that idea, FOMO is never a good idea.

[HyperiusUltima]

Here's something to keep in mind for people worrying about FOMO short term:

Each Patch is going to take close to 4 months, given the extended the time they needed for quality assurance in the game. This IS NOT a heavily restrictive FOMO, which is far different from the other FOMO passes out there(I'm staring at you, Chocobo GP). So more or less, you get about 8 MONTHS to obtain rewards from the PREVIOUS PASS. This means if you play PvP enough to get the rewards, you can still obtain them if you haven't the time before that patch to do so. While I am not a fan of FOMO, putting an extremely long timer for gear you missed out and such is actually a heavy incentive. Most Battle Passes? They go for 2-3 months. Then, those rewards are gone. Forever. I think the main saving grace is being able to exchange Trophy Crystals for these specific items the following patch(and given patch cycles, well...that's a really long time when it comes to a "Fear of Missing Out"!). After the patch after, they're gone - without knowing if they'll bring it back or not. Could be another "back by popular demand" thing if people demand a certain set be brought back, so to speak; but mostly I think it'll be gone after two patches.

Before we pass judgement we should wait and analyze the new system before making any plausible arguments on it - namely, the main thing I will be watching is the rate at which we gain Pass Levels, as well as the speed of it. Win and Loss Ratio affects the pass, so it's important to take new amounts into mind. If the pass turns out to be super slow, then yes: We can say it's not an effective way except putting a giant carrot on a long stick. But, people in XIV have been known to grind for glamour they want in all instances. Besides, Glamour is the "True Endgame" everyone says. Til' then, we shouldn't make any harsh arguments without backing them first.