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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    No this is mostly my feeling too. The biggest hurdle is often just figuring out how to TCJ safely during a high movement phase and adjusting around that. P4SP1 in particular gets me a lot, but that’s because of Pinax.


    Oftentimes the problem is death recovery and drift. You’ll encounter problems on phases that should be absolutely clean like FoF on P3S for a mistake made much much earlier that happened to be close or during a TA window. That said, I can’t imagine it would be any better on Monk.
    P3S has a problem near the end where riddle of fire comes up while the boss is untargetable before doing the dive dash across the arena. It's so near the end of the fight that it's not a HUGE deal, but if you don't just burn it up and waste a blitz, then you won't have it up when brotherhood comes up again right before enrage.

    That said, if you're not getting to enrage on the fight, then this is even less of an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    That said, if you're not getting to enrage on the fight, then this is even less of an issue.
    Yeah, when people say "problem" in this context, they really mean 'parse problem' rather than 'clear problem,' haha.

    The death issue with NIN can be rough in terms of trick alignment, but the key there is to not die

    Back to OP, g'luck with MNK! I think I may have to start leveling one myself to give it a try (though I doubt that any other class could get me to switch mains from NIN).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    Yeah, when people say "problem" in this context, they really mean 'parse problem' rather than 'clear problem,' haha.

    The death issue with NIN can be rough in terms of trick alignment, but the key there is to not die

    Back to OP, g'luck with MNK! I think I may have to start leveling one myself to give it a try (though I doubt that any other class could get me to switch mains from NIN).
    I mean it's more just that your cooldowns will go out of alignment. Double checked it last night and yeah riddle of fire comes up right as the boss jumps for it's final dash attack. BUT after it comes back you've only got maybe 90-ish seconds left in the fight before enrage anyway, so it's not a huge deal. Just meant needing to pop riddle of fire and use the AOE skills to charge up an elixir field so I had the lunar nadi when the bird came back.

    Was under the impression that ninja was even more strict, though, regarding needing to use your cooldowns at fairly specific times, making boss jump phases more of an issue with things going out of alignment. But maybe the devs timed things in such a way that they're less of a problem than I assumed they would be?
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