[Sage]: Feedback and Suggestions after 3 Months

[Liam_Harper]

I don't like the idea of merging Holos and Pneuma. You use Pneuma as your burst heal after taking a big hit, getting the 10% mitigation once the damage has happened and been healed makes less sense. I'm fine with Holos being a separate button, it means more flexibility in how we handle various situations.

[KDSilver]

Holos is great when Kerachole is not up (despite being availaible half of the time), extra mitigation or for the slight heal it produce.
I had a lot of good uses so I won't say it's superfluous.

[Rongway]

Eukrasia Dyskrasia

Something that is dyskrasian is literally literally not eukrasian.

[AnotherPerson]

Something that is dyskrasian is literally literally not eukrasian.

Eukrasian Dosis should sound like a HoT rather than a DoT so naming sense is really meh. Sage could just get Eukrasia and Dykrasia as two separate toggles but that's not the gameplay we're given, and it seems like bloat at this point so... :shrug:

[elioaiko]

My biggest issue with SGE is that Square said it's meant to be a shield healer. What shields? I have E. Prog. Lol. E. Diag. Lol. Then I have Haima and Panhaima. I ask again, what shields? I spend 99% of my time casting direct healing. SGE is a mobility healer if anything.

Also, what's a toxikon? I seem to remember having a spell of that name somewhere...

Aside from the GCD shielding, SGE is more of a flat percent mitigation-based healer with 10% mitigation spread across their kit and are stackable.

SCH should really have an oGCD shield. Replace Fey Blessing with a spammable (from Fey Gauge) 200 potency heal/shield.

[SeverianLyonesse]

I'm going to be against removing Toxikon II for mobility reasons if only because it's currently the only skill that currently doubles as both a mobility and weaving tool without incurring a loss. Phlegma also fills this niche, but you also want to use this within raid buffs, so it's not always readily available as an on-demand weaving tool. Having more weaving slots and on-demand double-weaving slots to bank on is a good thing, but it shouldn't be the only thing in the toolkit.

Instead, addersting should just be more incentivized first and become the main gimmick of SGE DPS gameplay. Have addersting be more readily available and give SGE more skills that interact with addersting.

Let addersting charge in multiple ways with a new status buff [Addercharge]:
4 stacks of [Addercharge] gets consumed to give 1 stack of addersting.
1. On breaking Eukrasian Diagnosis shield, grant 4 stacks of [Addercharge]. This is still the same as current Sage getting 1 addersting when Eukrasian Diagnosis breaks.
2. On breaking Eukrasian Prognosis shield, each shield break grants 1 stack of [Addercharge]. Generates up to a maximum of 2 addersting in a party of 8 if all shields break.
3. Using addersgall healing abilities grant 2 stacks of [Addercharge].
4. Every Eukrasian Dosis grants 2 stacks of [Addercharge].

5. Leave Rhizomata as it is and let it be traited to give both 1 Addersgall and 1 Addersting.

Now you have multiple ways of generating addersting and the resource management becomes much more flexible to use.
Now you can introduce other skills like Eukrasian Toxikon II (AoE DoT) or Eukrasian Dykrasia (AoE DoT) that requires 1 addersting with their own unique caveats & additional effects if the sage does not need Toxikon II for more mobility & double weaves. Later down the line, there can even be an Eukrasian Pneuma to strengthen Pneuma as a healing tool by using 2 addersting to grant all party members Kardion up to 5 times - keeping it inline with SGE's capstone skills. It would reinforce using Soteria as a strong healing tool as well by giving the toolkit more synergy as a DPS healer.

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I agree with the sentiment of this post generally. SGE needs more addersting interactions. I wouldn't mind this particular implementation, either.

My biggest issue with SGE is that Square said it's meant to be a shield healer. What shields? I have E. Prog. Lol. E. Diag. Lol. Then I have Haima and Panhaima. I ask again, what shields? I spend 99% of my time casting direct healing. SGE is a mobility healer if anything.

We also have Kerachole. I.e. the only shield I remember to use beyond E. Diag.

[Teno]

An interesting thread, though I disagree on Holos, it's a very good standalone spell, looks good and feels like right at home in many portions of the current savage tier fights, where you just top off people before a second raid buster coming, or to make up for some blunder. My main request : please improve Toxikon.

[RinaShinomiya]

Toxicon is honestly my only issue with Sage that i care about.
I could also complain about Prognosis / e. Prognosis being very weak & Pepsis not being really worth using after the level 85 trait but i don't care about these buttons too much.

[elioaiko]

An interesting thread, though I disagree on Holos, it's a very good standalone spell, looks good and feels like right at home in many portions of the current savage tier fights, where you just top off people before a second raid buster coming, or to make up for some blunder. My main request : please improve Toxikon.

I agree that Holos should stay, it looks good and I personally use it for mechanics where the party has to split and you need to throw mitigation in there.

Plus, SGE shines in its ability to apply mitigation near constant, taking away Holos as a standalone only makes it feel worse. At times it feels like SGE is the AST counterpart where it picks up on the extra healing that say, a WHM can't provide because it has an answer for damage for nearly every situation. SCH has this ability too just punished for using Indom, Sacred Soil, Excog because of the whole healing vs energy drain problem. SGE doesn't suffer from this as its MP recovery is linked to using oGCDs so you have a reason to not cap on Addersgall.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

SGE is my least played healer so I lack any meaningful insight to offer aside from nodding and shaking heads.

… I am however, still bothered by their decision to just clone SCH’s spammable AoE.
• WHM gets 8y point blank AoE with slow cast time.
• AST gets 5y targeted AoE with fast cast time.
• SCH gets 5y point blank AoE without cast time.
• Why SGE’s not frontal laser cleave or line AoE?? Why it has to be a cheap copy paste of SCH’s??