Stop band-aid fixing the glamour system and just fix it for real

[Gemina]

The updates that are coming are much needed, and will be nice for now, but they need to make a glamour log system or else the glamour storage situation will be unsustainable.

Literally the same exact thing was said the last time they updated the glamour system. That was like three to four years ago iirc.

[Mandudez]

Something that has to be noted here is that, yes, WoW Transmog is a good system. It also didn't exist at launch and took 7 years from WoW launch to get just the basic Void Storage and another 5 years to get the Appearances log to start becoming the full log that exists today.

Blizzard had to do exactly the same sort of gradual overhauls and upgrades that SE is doing.

2.0 has been out for 9 years and 1.0 11 years so by your logic we'll have an appearance log later this year lol. WoW is also an older game so by that logic should have even worse code than FFXIV does so it would get done quicker now. But we all know it won't happen so who has the next excuse?

[Mandudez]

i suspect gw2 that also had the benefit of the dyes being coded in a sane/competent manner. Meanwhile the code for 1.0 was so far from being that that it's still causing us problems hell i even remember hearing somewhere that the devs admitted that was the exact reason why the glamor system is still the way it is

WoW is an older game yet still manages it so why does FFXIV get to make the "old code" excuse?

[Momo_Kozuki]

15 current plates, plus the 5 new ones, equals 20 plates total. There are 20 jobs including BLU, so that's one plate each.

Crafters and gatherers are technically classes, not jobs

Ninja doesn't need a glam slot cuz they are the only one of Scouting. Until 7.0, at least.


Same with Blue Mage. They are always 10 level behind, and have their own gear to glam on. They don't really need a glam plate cuz their gear won't share with other casters due to level difference.

[Vahlnir]

WoW is an older game yet still manages it so why does FFXIV get to make the "old code" excuse?

It took WoW 12 years to get their "glamour log" system after citing "limitations" for a long, long time. Just saying. The game launched in 2004, and their log was added in 2016 with the Legion expansion. Before that it worked much like it does here, and to a much less efficient degree. It also took them years to implement THAT one too. Their initial system was added at the tail end of the Cataclysm expansion in 2011/2012. FF XIV had a working and functional (albeit flawed) system within a year of ARR's release. There was void storage (gear storage for glamour/transmog purposes) and bank storage in WoW as well, but both were extremely limited. 400 slots like we have now in this game would have been a blessing. So yeah, we don't have the best system and I really, REALLY want something better, but we are still miles ahead of where WoW was when it was this old.

[Asrun]

The system is so flawed that I personally lost any interest in glamour.

It is so frustrating not being able to apply or change your glamour anywhere.

It is inconvenient to have to go in a Inn’s room to edit the plates or store new items. And you cannot place glamour dresser in personal house because if two people click on it on the same moment the universe will collapse or whatever…

Dyeing can be problematic too with all that items you have to store in your inventory for dyeing equipment.

When they released the glamour dresser they told us that eventually armoire and dresser would have merged to became one system… years later we still have this madness with things that go in both and other you store only in the armoire. It’s just so lazy.

The glamour system as it was conceived is over-complicated, full of imposed limitations and layers of rules over preexisting rules.

But, yeah! Thanks for the new 5 plates and space slots that are coming late. I don’t care anymore.

[anhaato]

Literally the same exact thing was said the last time they updated the glamour system. That was like three to four years ago iirc.

It was correct then and it's correct now. The glamour system is fundamentally broken, with the number of gear pieces ingame now numbering LITERALLY OVER 10 THOUSAND. The fact that we only get to store less than 4% of that is a joke, and bumping that up to less than 8% won't be much better. In the upcoming patches we'll continue get new raid gear, new crafter gear, new level 1 glams, new tome gear, new event gear, and so on every 4 months. I don't know about you but that sounds unsustainable to me.

[Shurrikhan]

Interpretation:

"Adding more space (as requested by many players) + allowing use of plates outside of major cities (as requested by many players) is a BAD THING, because it doesn't work like World of Warcraft's Trasmogrification system."

"Can we have a more thorough fix instead of just slapping a bandaid on a fundamental issue?" =/= "these improvements are, themselves, bad," let alone "WoW or nothing."

But if this is really coming from a place of "Unlocking items permanently upon spiritbonding them, at minimal server burden (since they're held alike to just 0|1 achievements instead of tagged items), with thereby infinite space and no need to consume gil-sink items, lock the item one wants the appearance of out of actual usability, or visit an inn... is bad because WoW bad... so anything WoW may have done far more efficiently and conveniently must also be bad and we should remain distinct from WoW even if only by having certain systems purposely remain less efficient and convenient than they could be," --despite no mention of WoW in the OP, only a request for an actual, lasting solution-- I at least see where you're coming from, I guess?

[Kuroka]

It would already help a lot if theyd release more glamour versions of gear, especially accessory which eliminates the need for having multiple of the same... or lift some restrictions...

[DontReadThis]

Yes, we do need a glamour log.
It's incredibly annoying having to decide what to toss from the glam dresser every time I get a new piece of gear I like.
To make matters worse, most of the store gear takes up glam dresser space because it can't be stored in the armoire for some reason.
The glam dresser expansion is an okay band-aid fix, but the glam system needs an overhaul. That glam dresser will be full again in no time.