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  1. #51
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    No, if they do something dumb they will likely die and learn from their mistake. Or don't. I don't really care.

    The same goes for that bard standing on the other side of the arena btw. There is a perfectly fine Asylum in the middle. If you are not standing in it I hope you have Second Wind mapped.
    Why are you playing a healer role? Is it just for quick queues? Because it's obvious you don't want to help your party. I won't chase down someone out of heal range if it puts the rest of the group in danger either, but there's zero reason to not drop something on someone standing well within range even if they did something stupid if you are honestly there trying to support and be a credit to your party.
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  2. #52
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I won't chase down someone out of heal range if it puts the rest of the group in danger either, but there's zero reason to not drop something on someone standing well within range even if they did something stupid if you are honestly there trying to support and be a credit to your party.
    Personally speaking, it depends on which duty I'm getting thrown in.

    Getting Narnian BRD in Aurum Vale? Fine, I'll target them.
    Narnian MCH battling 1 on 1 against one stray mob in Steps of Faith? Fine too, I'll target them.
    Both healers stuck in 1 separate platform in E3N? Not much choice, let's target them.

    But a Narnian DNC in Knave of Heart at Paradigm? "Buddy... I hope you have that lingering regen ticking on you or I have fairy tether gauge to spare cause if 80 levels worth of gameplay didn't teach you to not live in Narnia, then Idk what else will."
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  3. #53
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    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Healing has been so unengaging for me my eyes have started to glaze over in expert roulette etc now. I sorely miss my stormblood astro, though its new animations and such are lovely I hate astrodyne and just how little healing in general content I need to do. That said even with eyes glazed over my tank never dies or gets close to dying, not that hard to spam 1, push 2 now and again and on the rare occasion throw a heal or mitigation out.. I don't even need to be looking at my screen most of the time now!
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  4. #54
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Healing has been so unengaging for me my eyes have started to glaze over in expert roulette etc now.
    Haven't been capping my tomes since week 3. I don't do expert because I don't have whm leveled, I don't level whm because whm is the worst/most unfun healer to play currently.

    It's a vicious cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
    Quote Originally Posted by Someone 2
    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  5. #55
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    Erik501's Avatar
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    Jade Green
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 82
    There are healers who refuse to heal period. They only want short queues. Some of them even have the nerve to come to these forums to complain about how terrible everybody else play because they have to heal them... as a healer... preposterous!!! Don't worry, fortunately there are not too many of those.
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  6. #56
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    Azuri's Avatar
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Why are you playing a healer role? Is it just for quick queues? Because it's obvious you don't want to help your party. I won't chase down someone out of heal range if it puts the rest of the group in danger either, but there's zero reason to not drop something on someone standing well within range even if they did something stupid if you are honestly there trying to support and be a credit to your party.
    I play a healer to push the boundaries of the survivability meta-game and find the exact minimum amount required to pass a given survivability check. Unlike the endless scale of offensive capabilities, survivability has a very sharp boundary where anything extra becomes useless. Skirting this boundary is what I often do. I find this fun.

    I don't play healer to give out hugs, kiss booboos and stave off your (t)anxiety attacks. I don't find this fun.
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  7. #57
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    Merrigan's Avatar
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    Merrigan Gilgard
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    Spriggan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Why are you playing a healer role? Is it just for quick queues? Because it's obvious you don't want to help your party. I won't chase down someone out of heal range if it puts the rest of the group in danger either, but there's zero reason to not drop something on someone standing well within range even if they did something stupid if you are honestly there trying to support and be a credit to your party.
    We don't heal. We control whether you live or die.

    *Diabolical laughing*
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  8. #58
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    Rhysati's Avatar
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Saimeren View Post
    Healers in this game don't like healing. They like being DPS with a fast queue time. They'll tell you that they like healing but it's not actually what they want.
    No, no, no. What I want as a healer is to actually heal. You could take literally every single DPS ability I have away(the whole two I use on a regular basis) and I'd be thrilled. The problem is that there is nothing to DO with those heals. If I have a warrior tank, I could literally never toss a single heal at them and we'd do just fine. And the other tanks are easy enough to heal with an occasional instant GCD heal.

    I actually have gone back to play things like Project 1999 Everquest as a healer because I WANT to heal. I don't want to fight things. If I wanted to do that I'd play a dps class. Heck, my friend offers me to come DPS with him on tank and another FC member on heals and I turn them down because I don't want to be a DPS class.

    The overwhelming majority of healers want to be healing. That's the fun of the role. We end up asking for more DPS options because the developers have made it perfectly clear over the past 9 years that they will never actually make dungeons challenging. They will never actually have healers needing to heal. This last expansion has made this even more obvious considering if you healer dies, the tank can usually solo the bosses on their own.
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  9. #59
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    24spencer's Avatar
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    Djar Trovasch
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    No, no, no. What I want as a healer is to actually heal. You could take literally every single DPS ability I have away(the whole two I use on a regular basis) and I'd be thrilled. The problem is that there is nothing to DO with those heals. If I have a warrior tank, I could literally never toss a single heal at them and we'd do just fine. And the other tanks are easy enough to heal with an occasional instant GCD heal.

    I actually have gone back to play things like Project 1999 Everquest as a healer because I WANT to heal. I don't want to fight things. If I wanted to do that I'd play a dps class. Heck, my friend offers me to come DPS with him on tank and another FC member on heals and I turn them down because I don't want to be a DPS class.

    The overwhelming majority of healers want to be healing. That's the fun of the role. We end up asking for more DPS options because the developers have made it perfectly clear over the past 9 years that they will never actually make dungeons challenging. They will never actually have healers needing to heal. This last expansion has made this even more obvious considering if you healer dies, the tank can usually solo the bosses on their own.
    I honestly prefer healing when it's a hybrid of DPS and healing but I completely agree, the issue is that both those aspects are just boring in ff. It's so unengaging at both ends.
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  10. #60
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    Eriane_Elis's Avatar
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    Eriane Elis
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    This is a first, I met some random guy who kept using superbolide at 50% HP. They eventually died because they used it at the end of a boss which had 0.5% HP with once again, 50%~ish tank hp. Please people, don't use this unless you really have to and abusing it seems very trollish. It throws healers off their rotation. I don't let people die usually and weave in heals when they are needed even if your HP is at 30%. But this guy was constantly using it at 50%. Seriously, don't. No healer expects SB to be used at 50% lol
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