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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    They said it and they mean it. It's really bizarre that you think there is a conspiracy that FFXIV doesn't think people should unsub and prefers that you remain subbed unhappily so you can complain on the forums.

    But since you said the forums are part of the reason you sub, then you are still getting value I guess. Given you have posted over 5000 times, a lot of value lol.
    I've always considered myself a casual player. I would personally be satisfied if there was some form of lasting content with quality outfits, and collectibles to go for. I don't even ask for much - I think, but even then the game fails to deliver. A lot of 'casuals' in this game, actually get the most out of their sub by making their own content, rping, or otherwise. It's used as a social hub - those are the players who actually get value out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    What are you actually complaint about then ? If you like being casual and visiting rp clubs, aren’t you getting your subs worth
    I don't RP, so I don't get my money's worth. Imagine doing that. lol. I'd like to have a game to play actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    Are you trolling actually lol? This is like shill mentality .
    Given this person can't comprehend what a sub is, and also refuses to unsub despite claiming they don't feel the sub has value, I'm no longer sure of the point of trying to communicate with this person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I've always considered myself a casual player. I would personally be satisfied if there was some form of lasting content with quality outfits, and collectibles to go for. I don't even ask for much - I think, but even then the game fails to deliver. A lot of 'casuals' in this game, actually get the most out of their sub by making their own content, rping, or otherwise. It's used as a social hub - those are the players who actually get value out of it.
    Any content ideas? And no this isn't "go make an MMO yourself if you're not happy" comment lol - just curious if you've made posts / threads on what you think would be satisfactory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Any content ideas? And no this isn't "go make an MMO yourself if you're not happy" comment lol - just curious if you've made posts / threads on what you think would be satisfactory.
    First off, they need to fix their manpower issues. The reason more difficult content gets put to the side or scrapped, for example, is stated as being due to how stretched thin their battle team is. Yoshida has talked about how stretched thin their resources are in general in the past many times. I think they are taking steps in the right direction with whatever they are doing with pvp, and I have heard that they are looking into more small scale content. I just want more stuff to do in general, and more - quality - things to strive for and collect.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    They do put out content like that. And then people grind the heck out of it, get the rewards they want, and then complain there's no content. Relics, for instance. They put those out with the idea that they're lasting content, but then people rush it to get what they want and then demand more because they finished too quickly. Like Zephyr said, this team of developers realized trying to chase that idea is a losing game. They put out the content and we can choose to partake or not partake.
    They make people grind the heck out of it, because they were stretching what little content they had. DR was fun - at first. It most definitely was not made to last, and they had to adjust it time and time again. With extremely low drop rates, and a handful of rewards. Questionable if they were even desirable in the first place. You needed to farm it then, otherwise it would be even more difficult when the next expansion comes out and the content is dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Answer me this. What are you trying to accomplish here?

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    Especially when they are getting your money anyway, as bizarrely you refuse to unsub. So they get your money because there is really no reason to listen to you, as you won't unsub regardless.
    I wasn't trying to accomplish anything. I was simply bored and posting on the forums, as I am now. On the matter of unsubbing, one of the reasons I cannot unsub is due to my house, if I unsub for long(er) periods of time, like I have in the past, I may lose my house. If I lose my house, I seriously doubt I will ever get one again with this raffle system or whatever they are planning on implementing. Granted, I have thought about just letting it go, but I worked hard trying to get it in the first place, and it was a big achievement for me. I do maintain a sub to post on the forums too, but I do not believe I am actually getting my money's worth out of it. I want to want to play the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    Are you trolling actually lol? This is like shill mentality . Paying for a game you wish you had a game to play
    How exactly is it trolling to want to have game content to make the sub more worthwhile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    How exactly is it trolling to want to have game content to make the sub more worthwhile?
    Answer me this. What are you trying to accomplish here?

    The Devs got in front of this issue many times, understanding the impossibility of releasing enough content for hardcore players to stay ahead of their consumption rate. They said to unsub when you are done with the content. FFXIV has a ton of content. You're just bored of it. So unsub.

    They told you when new content is coming and on a schedule. What they aren't going to do is change their entire business solely because you want more, and faster.

    Especially when they are getting your money anyway, as bizarrely you refuse to unsub. So they get your money because there is really no reason to listen to you, as you won't unsub regardless.
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    I don't mind too much if the content is provided with minimal bug issues.

    BUT

    I wish they would decouple really needed class changes from these big content patches. I really doubt there's no graphic changes for most of these changes, just some minorish engine changes that can't be done via just potency changes (Blood Weapon being changed to charges versus a timer).

    Or if there was a way to piece meal it a bit more instead of these mega patches, but I guess since some of the content is tied to others (like how All Hallow's End was locked into Endwalker) that's not possible.
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