World of Warcraft died because the developers only catered to casuals and world prog

[Skiros]

That's cute



Besides, aren't you so busy with Lost Ark atm, what are you even doing here?

That's cute: legacy players who haven't even cleared the tier trying to tell people they played more FF14 than everyone else. Shocker, but, you don't have more experience with the game just because you're a legacy player who hasn't engaged with more than half the content that exists in FF14. Go get a fully upgraded Eureka weapon or clear a Savage or solo a deep dungeon before talking more.

[MistyMew]

WOW has diminished so badly because:

1) they DIDNT cater enough to casuals
2) Ion is a lawyer not a game developer and it shows!
3) developers inflated egos versus good game decisions
4) they have been charged with a disgusting amount of law suits for sexual misconduct discrimination etc

many many reasons why wow is a state of decline , it never has been and never will be related to casual vs hardcore.

open your eyes please

[Skiros]

Remember when 6.0 released and there were often 2-4 hour queues? Now at peak times I get logged on within minutes. Limsa seems noticeably more quiet, as well as my friends list.

I feel like the game at this point focuses on new players and the msq grind and for veteran players there isn’t really much and unless you aim to do ultimate, there’s very little incentive to do your roulette loops (for tomes gear) or savage (since the gear is replaced 6-9 months down the line for new crafted gear which supersedes the raid gear) plus there isn’t enough unique other rewards as a reason to do content.

At least WoW has m+ and world quests which for some reason feel way more interesting to me than fates.

Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised if the number of players has dropped by 60 or 70 percent since EW.

[DBriggs304]

Aside from this being a complete troll post, wow died cause the old guard left and the new one didnt listen to players nor cared about the game outside of its monetary value.

Microsoft won't change this.

And Ion is there.

[Larirawiel]

wow died

Sorry, but WoW is still far far far FAR away from being dead.


Cheers

[DBriggs304]

Sorry, but WoW is still far far far FAR away from being dead.


Cheers

While not lifeless, it's lying on the road fading. It will never be what it was. There's too much competition now.

[Roflcopter]

WOW has diminished so badly because:

1) they DIDNT cater enough to casuals
2) Ion is a lawyer not a game developer and it shows!
3) developers inflated egos versus good game decisions
4) they have been charged with a disgusting amount of law suits for sexual misconduct discrimination etc

many many reasons why wow is a state of decline , it never has been and never will be related to casual vs hardcore.

open your eyes please

This is true. The high water marks of WoW were all accessible for most of the player base and were also very alt friendly. Wrath, Mists and Legion had a healthy top end game along with raids that were puggable. We aren’t talking about just lfr crap either. Normal and heroic could be progressed by a raider who pugged. That was huge for their success. The mythic + treadmill along with alt unfriendly power grinds in BFA and Shadowlands killed it for a lot of players. The constant focus on only endgame and throwing away the story every expansion didn’t help either. Mythic + just ended up making the player base exceedingly toxic too. They wanted to turn WoW into an esport and just made it a toxic cesspool.

[Themarvin]

Casuals for any MMO is the main target audience... the harcore/savage/ultimate is niche....

If you think that casual content is what kills a game, then you are wrong, extremely wrong.

[Sacred-Oblivion]

Midcore players are casual players. Assuming "midcore" means challenging content that can be completed without having to coordinate with people on voice chat. I would agree that we need more of that kind of content.

[xenahawk]

Ummm well first off wow isnt dead. If only i had a nickle for every chicken little spouting that i wouldnt need to work for a living, lol. Second not really what your comment is referring to in the first place. Are you complaining about class design or content or time between content. Their time between has always been about 3 and a half months and only being changed by 2 weeks. If its content seem to have and be adding stuff for all types of players. Really my friend if you have issues about a game state your issues dont hide behind speaking for a "majority of players" or comparing one game to another. I can speak well for myself and i have no real complaints.