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  1. #71
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I'd like them to get rid of soul crystals. I'd also like them to get rid of the system where Jobs change based on what weapon is equipped so that we could possibly have some overlapping Jobs.

    For example, we could have Archer automatically become Ranger at 30, share bows with BRD and have the powers of a real Job.
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  2. #72
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    The ARR rework should've included an extra quest in the Company of Heroes chain before Titan where they mention that only a truly exceptional hero could stand a chance alone, followed by the game directing the player to get their soul crystal. If you already have it, great, you can continue right away; if not, it's locked until you equip a soul crystal. Give people no excuse about it.
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  3. #73
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    Saffron2357's Avatar
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    Saffron Baker
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    Exodus
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    The ARR rework should've included an extra quest in the Company of Heroes chain before Titan where they mention that only a truly exceptional hero could stand a chance alone, followed by the game directing the player to get their soul crystal. If you already have it, great, you can continue right away; if not, it's locked until you equip a soul crystal. Give people no excuse about it.
    No no no, I'm gonna go one step further. The Roegadyn man who goes on about how he's the one who defeated Tidus? He should turn you away if you don't have a job crystal, telling you that he only shares his "special info" with people he sees potential in. If you have a job crystal, you pull it out and force him to acquiesce... After the usual farmwork, of course.
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  4. #74
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    Sicno's Avatar
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    Sandra Dalvia
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I agree with jobs being a requirement and I also agree with those who have proposed to detach SCH into a standalone job. SMN still uses carbuncles like Arcanist, meanwhile SCH's fairy has never had any correlation with the carbuncles other than both being "arcane entities". Even when you get synced down in Sastasha your Summon actions give you the fairy, not a carbuncle.

    Also with SMN's rework and all the skills they've removed from SCH I don't see any problem with completely detaching them from each other from a functional perspective. And even when it comes to the weapons they've differentiated between SMN grimoires and SCH codexes fairly early into the game.

    They don't even share the same main stats anymore (remember Cleric Stance?) What's even the point of keeping them glued under the same class?
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    Last edited by Sicno; 02-27-2022 at 11:02 AM.
    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

  5. #75
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    rainichan's Avatar
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    The ARR rework should've included an extra quest in the Company of Heroes chain before Titan where they mention that only a truly exceptional hero could stand a chance alone, followed by the game directing the player to get their soul crystal. If you already have it, great, you can continue right away; if not, it's locked until you equip a soul crystal. Give people no excuse about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron2357 View Post
    No no no, I'm gonna go one step further. The Roegadyn man who goes on about how he's the one who defeated Tidus? He should turn you away if you don't have a job crystal, telling you that he only shares his "special info" with people he sees potential in. If you have a job crystal, you pull it out and force him to acquiesce... After the usual farmwork, of course.
    Oh I like both of these! Having someone tell you about it, especially since that's on the road to Brayflox (and where ideally it would begin to be required) is even better! It being Mr. Tidus Slayer would be hilarious, honestly.
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  6. #76
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    NightHour's Avatar
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    Night Hour
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    I don't get why the job stone isn't automatically equipped when you equip the proper weapon to be honest. It would make more sense if you had to manually remove it if you for some outlandish reason want to play as your base class post-30.

    I play RDM, SCH, GNB and SMN, all of which auto-equip the job stone since they have no base class (actually I think smn but not sch defaults to ARC but don't quote me on that) but when I wanna do stuff on my BLM or PLD which I play way less, I routinely forget the stone and accidentally queue into stuff as the pleb base class.
    SMN does have a base class, It's Arcanist.
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  7. #77
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Maybe I'm just cursed or something, but I seem to run into these people a lot. And the worst part? It's usually either a GLA, a CNJ, or a THM. Meaning if you're going to encounter someone without a job stone, your odds of it being one of the two roles most necessary to complete a dungeon are high.

    The highest level stoneless person I ran into was indeed a THM. They were somehow still missing a job crystal around the level 70 mark. I'm not even remotely close to certain how this feat was accomplished, only that it was and that it caused things to take far longer than they needed to.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 02-28-2022 at 12:23 AM.

  8. #78
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    My personal opinion:

    1) Have all classes cap at level 30 until you clear the job stone quest for the job. Maybe a grace period to 35.
    2) Get rid of job stones as an actual physical item. Your class permanently switches to the job version once the quest is complete. 23 additional slots of armory chest. Easy slots for head/body/arms/legs/feet.
    3) Finally, surgically separate SMN and SCH. Once you hit 30, Archanist, it becomes SMN 30, and you unlock a completely different job, SCH, which starts at 30.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 02-27-2022 at 11:35 PM.

  9. #79
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    On one hand I get it. I try to be a person of principle and I think it is a good thing to adopt good etiquette and habits early on. To do mechanics even when they are not lethal, keeping gear up to date, keep up with your class quests especially if an ability is locked behind it, and equipping those soul stones as well.

    On the other, I am far more complacent and just don't care. The amount of energy it takes to care about and try to change that which is out of our control is immense. It is an investment that hardly ever pays out in our favor. Granted, some of the best and most memorable people in our history sought to change that which they had little power to do; or ascertained the power to do it. Some have forever etched their name into history be it for good or bad outcomes. I am a player in an mmo though. A pass-time, and escapism. Me taking over the world, and/or advancing our civilization will have to come when I am done playing FFXIV, I'm afraid. Right now, I really just like making my character pretty, while beating up bad guys.

    Ultimately, I appreciate those who always keep in mind that they are grouping up with other players, and show common courtesy. It takes too much energy to give time to those who don't appreciate it.
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  10. #80
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    My personal opinion:

    1) Have all classes cap at level 30 until you clear the job stone quest for the job. Maybe a grace period to 35.
    2) Get rid of job stones as an actual physical item. Your class permanently switches to the job version once the quest is complete. 23 additional slots of armory chest. Easy slots for head/body/arms/legs/feet.
    3) Finally, surgically separate SMN and SCH. Once you hit 30, Archanist, it becomes SMN 30, and you unlock a completely different job, SCH, which starts at 30.
    Agree with 1 and 2 but not 3. I kinda like being able to simultaneously level 2 jobs at the same time. Helps with using healer queues to level up Summoner.
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