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  1. #951
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    Jonathan_Clover's Avatar
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    Jonathan Clover
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    Zalera
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    Sage Lv 90
    Considering my sub runs out in 2 or 3 days, I guess you can add me to this list, too.

    After Yoshi-P's rude, dismissive comment, I have absolutely no desire to play or resub for the foreseeable future.

    I love the aesthetic of Sage, Scholar and White Mage, but sadly, aesthetics don't make a Job, and I don't think I can handle only casting Dosis for the next year and a half.
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  2. #952
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    einschwartz's Avatar
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    Ein'sf Florr
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I used to run everything as healer.
    When SE homogenized healer in ShB, I sometimes run as healer, sometimes as Bard.
    Now, I'm leaning more and more to drop healing entirely.

    Outside when content is new, I spent more time dpsing than healing.
    Why play a healer when all you do is dps, right?

    I'm gonna work on leveling BLM and main it alongside Bard, I guess.
    (12)
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  3. #953
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post
    After that crap in the live letter. I quit, no more healing ever, not casual or high end, no helping FC mates or anything else. I quit. Never have I seen a developer be this flagrantly disrespectful since the "Don't you guys have phones?" stuff with blizzard.

    I am also considering dropping the game altogether over this. It's a sign of terrible things to come, and I encourage others to quit healer entirely just the same as I have.
    Ironically, this may be the only course of action that will force change. Look no further than Monk last expansion. Once the community finally had enough following the disastrous launch of Shadowbringers Monk and refused to even touch the job outside of it being briefly overpowered in 5.05, it finally saw meaningful change. Unfortunately, I don't think an entire role could garner a large enough boycott, especially when the devs cater heavily to casual players who aren't nearly as upset with the Healer design.
    (10)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  4. #954
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Capybara Friend
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    I adore AST but I'm not raiding with it anymore.
    And the only reason I take healer in DF is, and has been for a long while now, because I don't trust DF healers to be competent, not because of the healer experience itself. I'd have more fun on a DPS job.
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  5. #955
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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I've been in limbo for a while now. I want to keep playing with my static and none of them are (rightfully so) interested in playing healer. So I'm stuck on the role. It pains me so much to even type that because I've always played healer in holy trinities. It's just what I like. But I'm as bored as everyone else posting here.
    I'd also take healer into expert just to go faster because I also don't trust DF healers to be competent. But it's more and more apparent that I (and many others) will have to drop the role as much as possible if we ever want anything done. So I'm done taking healer into anything other than my static runs. Sadly, won't be that hard since I wasn't enjoying it anymore anyways.
    (10)

  6. #956
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    I've been in limbo for a while now. I want to keep playing with my static and none of them are (rightfully so) interested in playing healer. So I'm stuck on the role. It pains me so much to even type that because I've always played healer in holy trinities. It's just what I like. But I'm as bored as everyone else posting here.
    I'd also take healer into expert just to go faster because I also don't trust DF healers to be competent. But it's more and more apparent that I (and many others) will have to drop the role as much as possible if we ever want anything done. So I'm done taking healer into anything other than my static runs. Sadly, won't be that hard since I wasn't enjoying it anymore anyways.
    You aren’t the only one who has this problem. I played healer in every mmo I could play it and even I swapped from healer too meele/caster in my group and I actually enjoy raiding a lot more then ever before and I do care about getting good logs on fights we’re on healer pressing 1 button was so boring plus it also broke my 1 button on the keyboard .
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  7. #957
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    Fiorinol's Avatar
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    F'iorin Rhiri
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    I've been in limbo for a while now. I want to keep playing with my static and none of them are (rightfully so) interested in playing healer. So I'm stuck on the role. It pains me so much to even type that because I've always played healer in holy trinities. It's just what I like. But I'm as bored as everyone else posting here.
    I'd also take healer into expert just to go faster because I also don't trust DF healers to be competent. But it's more and more apparent that I (and many others) will have to drop the role as much as possible if we ever want anything done. So I'm done taking healer into anything other than my static runs. Sadly, won't be that hard since I wasn't enjoying it anymore anyways.
    I've swapped off healer this expansion. I'm tired of playing healer in savage, I'm tired of how healers are always last in getting loot, and I'm tired of how playing healer in savage/ultimate almost guarantees that statics will pass you over if you want to play anything else than healer. I specifically don't enjoy what the designers did to Astrologian this expansion, and how White Mage is so far behind Astrologian that serious statics will force you to play Astrologian.

    It's fairly difficult to get competent healers now, many of the groups I know have had to settle with subpar healers, and that hurt progression this tier.
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  8. #958
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiorinol View Post
    I've swapped off healer this expansion. I'm tired of playing healer in savage, I'm tired of how healers are always last in getting loot, and I'm tired of how playing healer in savage/ultimate almost guarantees that statics will pass you over if you want to play anything else than healer. I specifically don't enjoy what the designers did to Astrologian this expansion, and how White Mage is so far behind Astrologian that serious statics will force you to play Astrologian.

    It's fairly difficult to get competent healers now, many of the groups I know have had to settle with subpar healers, and that hurt progression this tier.
    its not just me then thank goodness

    It always annoyed me that healers are always dead last for gear. I hoped for this static when I was trying sage (only way i could get into any static was by doing healer and I do want to unlock the ultimate even though chances are I will never do it)
    Static breaks on number 3 in the tier? tough luck healer only the dps deserve loot and maybe the tanks so they can ignore a tank swap. Its why I think savage loot should be personalised or drop 3 coffers one for each role.

    I picked up sage for a little while but dropped it days after my static broke up in week 3. The dark arts lite eukrasia was enough for me to occasionally heal some difficult content, but once everyone was used to EW I stopped doing roulettes with it and after static broke I stopped entirely. The fact that healers aren't even neccessary anymore for most content was just another on the list of reasons not to play the role at this point.

    At this point I'm heavily considering unsubbing until healers get better treatment from the developers or another job comes along in 7.0 that I enjoy like I did old astro and hw drk. Yoshida's insult was pretty much final notice. Unless the story hooks me in 6.1 I'm off and my friend can have my house. It was only the story and the house that kept me playing in shb because job and battle design was so poor and its even worse this expansion.
    This game has been on a downward slope for too long in the core gameplay department and too focused on flashiness and "accessibility" rather than solid content.

    While some recent announcements do please me such as difficult 4 man content at long last, I am rapidly running out of interest. Sage didn't offer anything new, Smn feels wrong without the pets, Reaper is far too clunky with my ping. Monk leaves something to be desired as usual and is still difficult with my ping. No other job moved on from the mess that is shb to be worth my interest.

    Pretty much no job interests me anymore. Too many jobs are homogenised messes (tanks/healers) ping reliant (mnk, mch, rpr) or have no depth to them whatsoever (too many to list)
    No to mention there are no resource based jobs other than sage anymore. Everything is a damn rotation
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    Last edited by Recon1o6; 02-22-2022 at 10:04 AM.

  9. #959
    Player
    Fiorinol's Avatar
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    F'iorin Rhiri
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    It always annoyed me that healers are always dead last for gear. I hoped for this static when I was trying sage (only way i could get into any static was by doing healer and I do want to unlock the ultimate even though chances are I will never do it)
    Static breaks on number 3 in the tier? tough luck healer only the dps deserve loot and maybe the tanks so they can ignore a tank swap. Its why I think savage loot should be personalised or drop 3 coffers one for each role.

    I picked up sage for a little while but dropped it days after my static broke up in week 3. The dark arts lite eukrasia was enough for me to occasionally heal some difficult content, but once everyone was used to EW I stopped doing roulettes with it and after static broke I stopped entirely. The fact that healers aren't even neccessary anymore for most content was just another on the list of reasons not to play the role at this point.
    What's especially not fun for healers is if the static has issues early, they end up with little but books for their efforts, and they have to do it all over again with another group. I don't think gear should be a source of contention for statics; healers should be getting something more than just pages since they also contribute to the raid.

    I really enjoyed Sage on release. It has a fun aesthetic and a coherent kit. However, I cannot help but feel I'm playing a better version of Scholar and White Mage. White Mage currently feels like it's in a bad place and needs some tuning.

    I'll still pick up healer if it's needed for content like Treasure Maps, or if healer is the only slot available for an extreme trial in Party Finder. But outside of that, I see little motivation to bother gearing up healers. The gear also gets drip fed over too long a period. I don't want to run Smileton another 2 months to gear up healers, so I'll stick to crafted gear.
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  10. #960
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    I'm likely going to ditch healing myself, as I found a static composed of some old friends. WHM is the only healer I have at cap so far, and... really feeling like it's just not for me. Probably going to be the DNC for the group once I get it up nicely and they consider me ready.
    Well, RIP. Looks like I jinxed it because their SCH healer is heading off to hospital and I'm going to start tonight... as WHM. Holy carp, I am extremely scared. Seriously wish I was anywhere else, but since these people are my friends I can't let them down. Looks like I'm back on the healer-main train, despite what I want.

    It's funny, because all I ever wanted from a game was a group of friends to do endgame with. I'm getting all that and yet just because of my Job I want to give it all up. It's not like they're hearing me out either because the other healer is adamant AST is a worse choice just because of how "busy" it is.
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