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  1. #151
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It's already hard enough finding a specific role to use Aetherial Mimicry on when scoping out Limsa.
    If it wasn't for job-restricted gear I'd be forever lost!
    If this is not some sort of ironic post... it got to be the worst counter argument ever! But i'll bite, since this is often brought up...

    Even right now when looking for mimicry I have to examine the character because (if weapon hidden) the armor silhouette is not enough to tell a job apart from another, unless they're wearing relic gear.

    It has never been. Someone in heavy armor can be either fending or maiming... or healing in some cases. YoRHa sets are impossible to tell if you're not already familiar with what is what. Law's Order sets are all full plate. A big chunk of players prefer to use the dozens of casual All Glam attires... even you in your avatar are wearing something that makes impossible to tell which job you're at.
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  2. #152
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    Shisen Akaitama
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    This is probably a terrible idea but... does anyone know where the Japanese forums' equivalent of the Live Letter Question thread is? Provided there even is one, I sure as hell couldn't find one if so. This is a cause I'm really passionate about lol so I wanted to post my question there too (even if only ran through Google Translate...)
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  3. #153
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    This is a cause I'm really passionate about lol so I wanted to post my question there too (even if only ran through Google Translate...)
    I don't think that's a good idea. They do look on both languages' forum threads. (Last time they did a lore Q&A I had a few of my questions picked.) Doubling up by posting in the wrong language with what may be obviously auto-translated text is just going to be annoying. Plus you'll have no idea if the question was already asked.
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  4. #154
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    Much ado is made about the difference between the western and JP playerbase, to the point I've started to wonder if this is something they even want, or if they overwhelmingly share Yoshida's "class identity" mentality...? Whichever the case, it's clear they're the ones with greater (potential) influence on the game overall while we're stuck screaming into the void, feels like...
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  5. #155
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It's already hard enough finding a specific role to use Aetherial Mimicry on when scoping out Limsa.
    If it wasn't for job-restricted gear I'd be forever lost!
    i mean
    besides examining them you could always just keep spamming aetherial mimicry until you find one but this is already a pointless argument because there's already a large amount of equipment whose sole purpose is to be level 1 and usable by everyone.

    people already don't look like their classes. the only equipment i could see wanting to prevent other classes from using would be weapons because, well, a warrior using axe-swing animations with an ast weapon would just be utterly broken.
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  6. #156
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    Coming from GW2 where you're practically locked into using only one silhouette...I think FFXIV offers way more variety per job, and I am happy with the options we have.

    It's quite rare that I try to cross-class glam and usually I find a way around it. Plus limitation breeds creativity. Glam contests wouldn't be as impressive if people didn't have things they had to work around like class-compatibility.

    So...I'm indifferent on this matter. But I am also a hroth who almost never has a desire to wear hats, frequently takes his shirt off, and always looks fly af no matter what I wear. :nailpolishemoji:
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    Last edited by SeverianLyonesse; 02-17-2022 at 06:33 AM.

  7. #157
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    Colter Hildibrand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Much ado is made about the difference between the western and JP playerbase, to the point I've started to wonder if this is something they even want, or if they overwhelmingly share Yoshida's "class identity" mentality...? Whichever the case, it's clear they're the ones with greater (potential) influence on the game overall while we're stuck screaming into the void, feels like...
    In which case it would be better to look through the JP forums to see if they have a thread on this specific topic. I can look around I suppose. There's a huge section on glamours they'd like to have that I'm looking through now
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  8. #158
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    Colter Hildibrand
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    And...found some about it. Kinda old though. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...8F%90%E6%A1%88
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  9. #159
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    Fengo Taevarth
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    As a sprout as of this post, I just want to also add my 2 cents in.

    I REALLY despise the idea of having armor locked behind specific classes.

    I come from Elder Scrolls Online which has probably the most robust and amazing "transmog" system in any game I have ever played. Nothing is locked behind a certain class, wanna be a mage in heavy metal plate armor? go ahead. Don't like Robes? Well lucky for you, there's a variant of said robes WITHOUT the dress part, and just the shirt/top for your character to wear. All dyes are achievement based, and dyeing weapons and armor comes with 3 dye channels. Some armor or weapons have these slots excluded, such as "Artifacts", but generally everything can be dyed 3 different colors if you wanted, instead of having Monochrome clothing.

    Now, I am not saying FF14 needs to have this large system that ESO has done, and maybe it isn't even possible to do something so big. But I know for certain that locking stuff behind classes is not under any such issues. It is simply some sort of "Tag" that items have that prevent you from doing it. All you have to do is remove it.
    And personally I do not see why they shouldn't. They release SO MANY different variants of armor, namely most of the Level 1 gear you find on the marketboard being a carbon copy of already existing gear, except it's lvl 1 and not class locked.

    I can see why they would lock things by level, and weapons are usually a given to not being universal. but class locking is a dumb concept, even for the reasons they supposedly had given in the past ("Class identity" which is just forcing their own beliefs on what a class should look like on the player.). specially with Emporer's new clothing, if someone wanted to they could just walk around completely naked.

    Also, I feel this would remove excessive bloat from the game, and save dev time, you dont need to make 40 variants of a piece of armor that looks exactly the same, just with different level requirements. I can get if maybe they do it to make stuff dye differently, but most dungeon gear isn't even dyeable.

    I have been loving FF14 so far, and it is probably one of the best game's I've ever had the pleasure of getting to experience. but as a new player I am constantly let down by the fact that there's this one piece of armor I am not allowed to use just because its artificially gated to a specific play style. Healers ESPECIALLY have some of the most ugly gear I have ever seen, most of the time, especially in the early expansions...I am forced to be wearing a bathrobe the entire time. or glam myself with generic clothing that EVERYONE else uses probably for the same reason...
    I do not feel like you can ever be truly unique in this game. There's only so many items you can wear in combination with each other when the item is both class locked AND undyeable, etc.

    I am hoping Square changes this eventually.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colter_Hildibrand View Post
    And...found some about it. Kinda old though. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...8F%90%E6%A1%88
    Thanks for taking the time. First response having as many likes as the OP, despite (seemingly) being against lifting job/role restrictions, is not a great first impression though lmao...
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    Last edited by Tsiron; 02-17-2022 at 05:37 PM.

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