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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I always played RDM quite a bit, but white mage is my main. At the start of an expansion I have to choose which to gear. I don't have gear for my RDM - so I can't play it regularly. I don't think anybody actually 'turned against' me, however. More like that's how it was at the start. Lol. There aren't any better games, as if. This is the best mmorpg available currently.
    RDM is a good choice, being a dps is less likely to get into argument with other player or DPS role is more “invisible” in general.

    I certainly found it less stressful to play DPS than heal and tank. I tend to gear one job in each role, for a change when I get bored or when I am tired and brain not working.
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  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I honestly don't think it matters how many times I explain what I mean, or whatever else. It seems pretty obvious that, as a white mage, I am expected to cure 2 spam players, medica 2 spam, and hardcast raise the instant anybody dies. I'll go back to playing RDM more often if I ever get my weapon for it. Much less of a headache. I probably should buy some crafted gear for it.
    I genuinely think it would be a good idea to try a DPS job for a while. Id suggest something like black mage or samurai as opposed to red mage though. Red mages have a raise and even a small heal and it sounds like you may want to avoid situations where you might be expected to help others.
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  3. #353
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    RDM is a good choice, being a dps is less likely to get into argument with other player or DPS role is more “invisible” in general.

    I certainly found it less stressful to play DPS than heal and tank. I tend to gear one job in each role, for a change when I get bored or when I am tired and brain not working.
    I have literally played RDM for years, it's not even a matter of choice. RDM has been my main DPS since the start of ShB. I played it more often prior to the expac, because I had equivalent gear. Without a proper weapon, my DPS would be lower than it should be. This means six more weeks, until I can actually play RDM. I typically tank dungeons, DPS when bored, but otherwise I heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    I genuinely think it would be a good idea to try a DPS job for a while. Id suggest something like black mage or samurai as opposed to red mage though. Red mages have a raise and even a small heal and it sounds like you may want to avoid situations where you might be expected to help others.
    If somebody actually wanted me to do something, this sure isn't the way to do it. This sort of comment usually has the opposite opposite effect on somebody like me.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 02-12-2022 at 12:16 AM.
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  4. #354
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    I mostly avoid playing support roles in Casual DF content despite tanking being my main on the hardcore side of things, due to a few bad experiences. I once had a guy rant at me for an entire 15 minute dungeon run because I was "turning my back to the enemy" and taking "increased damage", and he devolved into calling me a WoW refugee and said he was going to report me. I've had people complain about me DPSing as a healer in low level content, despite no one dying or even going low. I've had someone call me 'trash' for not being fully melded in Tenacity as a tank. A lot of casual players have very different preconceptions about what being 'good' is. You'll notice the more optimally you play as a healer, the less likely you are to receive comms at the end of a dungeon, regardless of how much faster you make the dungeon go. (low health is scawy )

    Might be worth spending more time in EX/Savage, as you'll probably find more people that share your outlook.
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    Last edited by LittleImp; 02-12-2022 at 03:48 AM.

  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I mostly avoid playing support roles in Casual DF content despite tanking being my main on the hardcore side of things, due to a few bad experiences. I once had a guy rant at me for an entire 15 minute dungeon run because I was "turning my back to the enemy" and taking "increased damage", and he devolved into calling me a WoW refugee and said he was going to report me. I've had people complain about me DPSing as a healer in low level content, despite no one dying or even going low. I've had someone call me 'trash' for not being fully melded in Tenacity as a tank. A lot of casual players have very different preconceptions about what being 'good' is. You'll notice the more optimally you play as a healer, the less likely you are to receive comms at the end of a dungeon, regardless of how much faster you make the dungeon go. (low health is scawy )

    Might be worth spending more time EX/Savage, as you'll probably find more people that share your outlook.
    Yep. They have a propensity to start name calling, cursing, etc.. If you don't keep them topped off at 100% - while they proceed to not use a single DCD, wanting you to drop everything to focus heal them while they stand in every mechanic under the sun (at the expense of the rest of the party), hardcast raise them if and when they die, etc.. I'm not surprised with the "WoW refugee" thing. I haven't really been called that myself, but that's like many in this community's go to insult. It is quite hilarious how you will end up being called a 'bad' person or whatever for a difference in playstyle, while the other person is here literally harassing you.

    I don't want to be a burden on a ex/savage static or something like an FC. I have never been big into PvE, but if I did join one, I feel like it would be more like a job to me than 'fun', after awhile. Then I would feel stuck, because I wouldn't want to waste everyone else's time, just because I have lost interest. I also don't like to get involved with friend groups or people anymore, as they have constantly ended in drama, and I just don't want to deal with that potential.. I lock myself in an innroom or my house, chat with nobody, and try to play semi-optimally, that's about it.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 02-12-2022 at 02:33 AM.
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  6. #356
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    Wow you guys are sure still goin
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  7. #357
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yep. They have a propensity to start name calling, cursing, etc.. If you don't keep them topped off at 100% - while they proceed to not use a single DCD, wanting you to drop everything to focus heal them while they stand in every mechanic under the sun (at the expense of the rest of the party), hardcast raise them if and when they die, etc.. I'm not surprised with the "WoW refugee" thing. I haven't really been called that myself, but that's like many in this community's go to insult. It is quite hilarious how you will end up being called a 'bad' person or whatever for a difference in playstyle, while the other person is here literally harassing you.

    I don't want to be a burden on a ex/savage static or something like an FC. I have never been big into PvE, but if I did join one, I feel like it would be more like a job to me than 'fun', after awhile. Then I would feel stuck, because I wouldn't want to waste everyone else's time, just because I have lost interest. I also don't like to get involved with friend groups or people anymore, as they have constantly ended in drama, and I just don't want to deal with that potential.. I lock myself in an innroom or my house, chat with nobody, and try to play semi-optimally, that's about it.
    While I don't agree with your assessment of what a healer's responsibility is in this game, it should go without saying name calling and harassment is never okay.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    While I don't agree with your assessment of what a healer's responsibility is in this game, it should go without saying name calling and harassment is never okay.
    Says you when you call people indecent etc. or we going to ignore the hypocrisy or your statement?
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  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I don't want to be a burden on a ex/savage static or something like an FC. I have never been big into PvE, but if I did join one, I feel like it would be more like a job to me than 'fun', after awhile. Then I would feel stuck, because I wouldn't want to waste everyone else's time, just because I have lost interest.
    I'd recommend pugging around a bit, but I kind of gather you're probably not enough of a masochist for that. If you find dungeons can be frustrating, wiping to pinax 50 times or seeing enrage in p2s when everyone has the tome weapon probably won't be much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I also don't like to get involved with friend groups or people anymore, as they have constantly ended in drama, and I just don't want to deal with that potential.. I lock myself in an innroom or my house, chat with nobody, and try to play semi-optimally, that's about it.
    Yeah I don't blame you, people on this game in particular seem to have a propensity for falling out over really weird stuff. I've seen groups collapse over lore disagreements, rp relationships, housing decoration (lol?), raid clears, you name it. The only upshot to drama is that it makes it easier to single out the other people who don't like drama either, which is pretty much how I've built my core group of friends over the years. Having a good sense of humor, and knowing when to just walk away is important for the sake of your sanity when navigating FFXIV's bizarre social politics.
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  10. #360
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Says you when you call people indecent etc. or we going to ignore the hypocrisy or your statement?
    You said on these very forums that everyone you encounter in the game except MAYBE your spouse, is a means to end. I stand by that factual statement 100% that is most indecent.
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