Alliance Raids and players not waiting for Cutscene Watchers

[Saraide]

I rush ahead, taunt and or aoe to make sure the mobs don't run amock, then ask said person to not do that again. If they keep doing it then we have a problem. As I already said.

Clearly you are making up that problem because you are perfectly capable of just taking aggro back.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Clearly you are making up that problem because you are perfectly capable of just taking aggro back.

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

[aveyond-dreams]

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

And if the healer is somehow unable to keep up with a minimum 2 packs per pull, then that demonstrates that they are not utilizing their kit properly and I would rather not carry them past level 50 content nor whoever else decides to enable them. At no point do I have to tolerate a group who is underperforming compared to the trust npcs we have available to us now.

[Tremara]

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

Someone thinks they're special.

Reality check: just because you're the tank you're not automatically the ruler of the party.

For cutscenes: who wants to wait will wait and who doesn't won't. Either is a way to play the game and there is no wrong. If SE wants to enforce the rule of waiting mobs wouldn't be attackable until cutscenes are over. Instead SE implemented the port-in-option so ppl that watch the cutscene won't miss out on the fight. Dunno if ppl forgot that it wasn't always possible to enter a fight that already started. SE already implemented a solution for that problem.

[Saraide]

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

I am not surprised that you are just trying to flex your self proclaimed power over someone else but it's still pretty sad to see. It seems i was 100% on the mark when I said some people in this thread are just looking for slaves instead of fellow players, you are the perfect example of this. There is no inherent problem with a dps pulling ahead, you are making it one by refusing to do your job. You accuse others of only thinking about themselves but in reality you are just projecting from yourself.

Make no mistake, you are replaceable aswell or not needed at all with a good party.

[TheJamJam]

People don't like this take, but you don't pay their sub. So you don't get to dictate how people should play, ever.

As long as none of them are actively harming or flaming you, it's none of your business how others choose to engage with the game.

If you cannot find peace with that, seek people on discords or other places who share your game etiquette and play everything along them.

[YukikoKurosawa]

I am not surprised that you are just trying to flex your self proclaimed power over someone else but it's still pretty sad to see. It seems i was 100% on the mark when I said some people in this thread are just looking for slaves instead of fellow players, you are the perfect example of this. There is no inherent problem with a dps pulling ahead, you are making it one by refusing to do your job. You accuse others of only thinking about themselves but in reality you are just projecting from yourself.

Make no mistake, you are replaceable aswell or not needed at all with a good party.

I'll repeat this until you understand.

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

No one is forcing you to pull ahead of the tank. No one is forcing you to pull when someone is in a cutscene. You are making these actions of your own free will. If someone is in a cutscene and you're pulling they are not in the wrong for watching said scene and not helping you until they're done. When you decide to pull while your healer is in a cutscene that is something you did entirely of your own volition whne you could just have well have waited, you don't get to complain, or go cite TOS because they didn't help you when you made the conscious choice to pull without making sure or not caring that your whole party was ready. That's on you. You seem to think you get to dictate the course of a dungeon, and that others should respect you and your time but don't want to return the favor and unironically are moralizing other people like myself over this same issue when it's you that's in need of some perspective.

You keep trying to make justifications I will simply ask who forced you to pull in the first place? No one. Especially when I and most other tanks will 2-group pull and have no need for a dps with a short attention span pulling for me. I will already be doing fast, large pulls so your assistance is not needed.

You don't pay my sub? Cool, you also don't pay my sub. Funny how that works.

[BaconBits]

I'll repeat this until you understand.

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

The primal urge to pull, regardless of role.

[Saraide]

I'll repeat this until you understand.

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

No one is forcing you to pull ahead of the tank. No one is forcing you to pull when someone is in a cutscene. You are making these actions of your own free will. If someone is in a cutscene and you're pulling they are not in the wrong for watching said scene and not helping you until they're done. When you decide to pull while your healer is in a cutscene that is something you did entirely of your own volition whne you could just have well have waited, you don't get to complain, or go cite TOS because they didn't help you when you made the conscious choice to pull without making sure or not caring that your whole party was ready. That's on you. You seem to think you get to dictate the course of a dungeon, and that others should respect you and your time but don't want to return the favor and unironically are moralizing other people like myself over this same issue when it's you that's in need of some perspective.

You keep trying to make justifications I will simply ask who forced you to pull in the first place? No one. Especially when I and most other tanks will 2-group pull and have no need for a dps with a short attention span pulling for me. I will already be doing fast, large pulls so your assistance is not needed.

You don't pay my sub? Cool, you also don't pay my sub. Funny how that works.

Of course a dps doesnt have to pull ahead in a dungeon. But you also dont have to throw a tantrum about it. It really feels strange that you are reacting that hostile to someone who is just trying to help.

The choice that can lead deaths/wipes in dungeons is primarily the one you make, therefore it's only natural that people make you responsible for it.

Since you're so in favor of repeating yourself:

You dont have to throw a tantrum about a dps pulling ahead in a dungeon.

You dont have to throw a tantrum about a dps pulling ahead in a dungeon.

You dont have to throw a tantrum about a dps pulling ahead in a dungeon.

You dont have to throw a tantrum about a dps pulling ahead in a dungeon.