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  1. #51
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    Momo_Kozuki's Avatar
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    Momo Kozuki
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    I just want to be able solo to grind Eureka relic in peace.



    Among four areas of Eureka, I love the first one the most. You can chain monsters for relic currency, earn NM currencies that can be exchanged for relic currency (or have them used for the armor), and you can exchange currency for boss currency. Everything feels perfect! Perhaps adding Logogram to the this area would make the grind even more enjoyable.



    Then you have the other three subpar regions.



    Past that, everything relic-related requires NM spawning, where you wait hours and hope your current channel is not a dying one. If you are the overseas player who play off-peak, your progression comes to a crawl.
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  2. #52
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    Yuella's Avatar
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    Sage Lv 98
    you're not supposed to grind it. you're supposed to go in once a week to do the challenge log.
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  3. #53
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    Machinist Lv 90
    It's already nerfed.
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  4. #54
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    I can only hope that Endwalker's relic acquisition is nothing like Stormblood and Shadowbringers so I can actually get relic weapons again. I liked how I acquired relics in Heavensward the best. ARR's relic acquisition would have been great if not for the books stage requiring so many books to do. But Stormblood's relic was a big nope after I saw how Anemos played out, and Shadowbringers was a big nope after I got to the point where I couldn't go further in the relic progression without doing Bozja itself. I don't like these alternative leveling and extra action systems. I don't like massive damage sponge enemies. I wouldn't have complained about Eureka or Bozja if there were alternative methods to progress the relics outside of that content, but since there wasn't, relics were basically removed as content for me in those expansions.
    Yeah I don't have a single Eureka relic. I have a couple Bozja resistance weapons because after I bored myself to death there getting rank up for the things I needed there like CLL or DR, I could use the alternate paths at my convenience and own pace to get the drops I needed. But I have multiple Zodiac on a couple of characters and I'm polishing off the last of my anima on classes that weren't leveled until recently when I went for the amaro. I plan to go back and polish off missing Zodiac as well.

    I hated Eureka. It was boring. It shoved you into an instance and divorced you from everything else in the game. It tried to have an old school XI or EQ era camp and grind style but people found ways around that. And since unless you go in with friends you're doing PUGs, which eliminates one of the positives of old school camp and grind in building a community on the server.

    I really hope they don't tie to the next relic to one of these zones.
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  5. #55
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    Momo Kozuki
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post

    I really hope they don't tie to the next relic to one of these zones.

    I don't mind if they do, as long as they give an alternative way to do them like ShB relics cuz the zones will be only lively on-content. Bozja is a bit special cuz you can use it to level up to lv90, but people who do that avoid doing CLL/DR/DA.



    And oh, nuke PoTD out of the equation, plz. Have to spend hours for a chance of relic drop if you don't have a static to go beyond floor 100, or wrestle with insufficiently-nerfed DA with less than 24 members is a nightmare for the involved relic step.
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  6. #56
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki View Post
    I don't mind if they do, as long as they give an alternative way to do them like ShB relics cuz the zones will be only lively on-content. Bozja is a bit special cuz you can use it to level up to lv90, but people who do that avoid doing CLL/DR/DA.



    And oh, nuke PoTD out of the equation, plz. Have to spend hours for a chance of relic drop if you don't have a static to go beyond floor 100, or wrestle with insufficiently-nerfed DA with less than 24 members is a nightmare for the involved relic step.
    I would hope for a new open world area with instanced content off of it. The problem with it being a separate instance is there's a limit on number and you're stuck grouping from whoever happens to be there. An open world area could give those who want a more interesting open world experience something to look forward to, still have instances off it (maybe like you can queue for DR outside the Bozja instance), and has potential to have daily tasks or missions that could allow someone to progress slowly or larger group content for those who want that. And then still have the alternatives for progressing something like a relic so players can choose if they want to use the new open world area route or old content or some mixture.
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  7. #57
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    Irja Atoel
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    While the Leveling experience is absolutely better than at launch, improvements in to Eureka in general would be welcomed and appreciated.

    Where I think focus should be placed is on obtaining subsequent Eureka Weapons after reaching maximum elemental level and having to specifically grind for weapon resources in each zone. Anemos, Pyros, and Hydatos are mostly fine as is, though the ability to obtain crystalline scales from hydatos crystals would be nice. Pagos definitely needs help there. I want to finish the other 14 weapons, but the thought of having to spend upwards of a hundred hours grinding NM spawns and elvl 40 enemies does not sound at all pleasant or fun.

    I think one of two options would be effective for Pagos: (1) buff the amount of vitiated aether yield from elvl 35+ enemies so the grind can be more spread out depending on player activity at the time and/or (2) place a vendor to purchase Frosted Protean crystals and Pagos crystals with Tomestones of Poetics, enabling acquisition of some of the weapon resources from activities outside of the Eureka zones.
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  8. #58
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    I have like four Physeos weapons, I'd have more but Pagos has always been a chore, they knew back then the feedback was harsh and the subsequent areas don't have the nuances and they kept the balancing while holding to the love letter of FFXI. I enjoyed the time in Eureka and BA because the people were cool to play with. I'd make NM parties all the time, and felt like everyone was helping each other out. This kind of content always makes me feel good. Bozja was less dangerous, but still was great. I'm just glad they know battlefield content is the way forward in this game for relics and harder alliance content such as DRS.
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  9. #59
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    KaitoAsaha's Avatar
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    Balmung
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    Honestly can we get this asked during the live letter? See if the devs have any plans to let BLU loose in Eureka, because I was looking forward to that a lot, just to see it not even be a thing. A yes or no from them will suffice. A somewhere in the future would be fine. But not a maybe.
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    Ravor Elliard
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    Atomos
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I love eureka and Bozja because of the raid content like BA, CLL, DR and DA, i always love 20+ raid content, it felt MMORPG and killing the boss felt nice together with others sharing the glory, especially DRS, it just ashame that perhaps some percentage of players will hardly ever played or tried them, as for eureka leveling, the only think i hate is there is less lvl and zone to play, yeah, i am an old style mmorpg player where grinding is the game and eureka felt not that grindy, i mean compared to old RPG in the past, my last opinion concerning eureka is that the zone was designed to be played with other player rather than soloing it, i tried solo and i enjoy it, i tried playing with some other player and i have waaaay much more fun
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