Does 14 Promote a Culture of Mediocrity?

[Krotoan]

I wonder why certain posters get bent out of shape at others for having an opinion that runs counters to their's. So much so that they must attack the person rather than engaging the argument. It's plain to see jobs and roles have been vastly simplified, yet performance does not increase. So the devs continue to take from one group to their detriment, and give them nothing in return. Meanwhile, the other group grows fat and gets when called out.

Your opinion is that people are BELOW you for playing differently and not needing extreme challenge to enjoy things.

Jobs and roles have been simplified and the playerbase has grown. One could argue this means this is better for the continued survival of the game.

So devs continue to focus on content for the more profitable and consistent playerbase with a more manageable appetite (bleeding edge challenge content consumers require CONSTANT new content).

Does 14 promote a "culture" of mediocrity? No. It caters to the tastes and habits of a large player base. It makes the entertainment available to those who wish to engage in it.


And now, pending your edit I guess you're just calling people fat now. .. probably not your intent but it seems like a Freudian slip.

[linayar]

Savage fight design is not job design, furthermore population increases have happend. Particularly from mmos that have a raid focus.

The end result (assuming you were correct) is that performance in the community has increased by that metric.

[Caurcas]

The end result (assuming you were correct) is that performance in the community has increased by that metric.

Furthermore, savage fight design itself has changed and normalized from the point it was introduced. HW's savages were of higher difficulty, whereas SB onward have been easier.

[linayar]

Furthermore, savage fight design itself has changed and normalized from the point it was introduced. HW's savages were of higher difficulty, whereas SB onward have been easier.

I'm not sure what your point is. I've always heard that Gordias nearly killed the raiding scene and Midas was only slightly better (although I've heard it was nerfed during progression).

Regardless of the actual truth, if more people are trying and clearing Savage in Stormblood and subsequent expansions, that is a healthy thing for the raiding scene.

[Kes13a]

about the only mediocrity that SE seems to have promoted lately is that of the trolls.

they used to be better...

[MiaShino]

I wonder why certain posters get bent out of shape at others for having an opinion that runs counters to their's. So much so that they must attack the person rather than engaging the argument.

Threads like this one are always occasionally created and devolve into same arguments.

One group "is not going to try because it is not their job".

The other group wishes for others to be considerate of team members in team oriented game.

Some sit upon the fence and "take no side" but if know one thing about those individuals, they most certainly take sides.

This goes too and fro for several more pages until it vanishes into obscurity with all of the other threads.

One section of the community wonders why we do not all treat the team game as containing three - seven other living, breathing persons.

The other section says things such as;

This game has a lot of bad players and weird white-knighting no doubt, but I feel like a lot of people just defend "bad" players because they find it more satisfying and entertaining to get under the skin of people who whine about performance in casual content.

See, I would never deliberately antagonize my fellow team members to "get under their skin", regardless of content difficulty but what can be said? You are arguing with many someones who do not care and see no problem. They will tell you only to group with players like yourself, and you perhaps will. They will then make threads about certain trials being too difficult and should be nerfed because welp, we took the advice. We stopped queuing and now there is no one left to carry your booty. Of course, developers will listen and nerf the trial and so the cycle shall continue.

What am attempting to say here is that you argue with one solid concrete wall. No one will convince them to play better as no one can convince a narcissist they might be narcissistic.

[Aurikai]

Savage completion, and floor completion and engagement has gone up every expansion. Which, is a good thing if there is a silver lining.

You have no evidence of that, it's impossible to tell. Current raid tier is at 1.5% completion, if jobs are insanely easier as you state it should be much much higher. Easier jobs would directly corelate to clearing content easier.

[VelKallor]

have shifted toward shielding the bad from valid criticism

No one appointed you arbiter. If a person needs or wants help, they will approach you or others for advice.

If by that sentence it means you dont have a license to scream abuse at them, no, you dont. It is not YOUR PLACE to sit and lecture others. How do you know what you tell them isnt wrong? If the mods will forgive this small impertinence, I will borrow a phrase my mother used...and STILL DOES.

Who died and made you Pharaoh in Egypt.?

[Gemina]

Every time I see a thread like this, I tend to just to go to some random area in the game, or head into an alliance raid, or something else very casual to appreciate all of this atrocious mediocrity that is the bane of the game.

It is here, away from the forums that a find a ton of players who are just having fun playing the game. They are not arguing over a 20 pot loss if you use Fountain Fall instead of Bloodshower. They couldn't care less if you cast Succor when the boss is still targetable. They play the jobs they enjoy, and avoid the ones they don't. It is rare that they ever find themselves in some fued with another player while online.

People lose sight. They invest so much raw emotion into an mmo, and have forgotten all about a time when they just played the game. A far more pure and innocent time when ignorance was bliss, and outgoing damage didn't mean jack-S. All that mattered was working together with others to get the clear.

It saddens me that anyone has to ask if the devs promote a culture of mediocrity. If you can't understand that the answer to this question is unequivocally, "No!" Then I fear you might be entering your twilight era with FFXIV, if not totally in it already. Such a shame that your sun is setting when they are talking about the game in the context of the next decade. But if the game is not going in a direction that you approve of, then it might be best to set your sights elsewhere.

Again, this is a game. You should enjoy your time playing it instead of saturating yourself in frustration and discontent. There is too much happening around you to get lost in aspects of the game you have very little power to change.

Do your best to have fun, while melting your enemies. Nothing wrong with optimizing rotations and battles, but there is little reason to lose sleep over them, or get into a heated debate with another poster.

[VelKallor]

How good someone is at FFXIV is totally immaterial to life.

Anyone who believes otherwise needs a reality check. This is a game. Thats all it is. Thats all it will ever be.