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  1. #51
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Not sure why you need to build out a diagram. The rotation isn't that complicated, its just long. Go into SSS and just do it over and over again until it becomes muscle memory as you work around your dot. As long as you pay attention to your dot timer you're golden on keeping in line between your 2 minute and 1 minute rotations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flashock View Post
    I never could get used to that many mouse buttons. But best of luck to you.
    Personally I can't play any MMO without one. I bought my razer naga back in 2012 and it took me a bit to get used to it, but it makes keybinding WAY easier. I'll never play an MMO without one.
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  2. #52
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    Akamadoshi's Avatar
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    Evander Achilles
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    Sophia
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    Pugilist Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjamatic View Post
    I spent last night listening to a guy on youtube explain the 90 SAM opener. I had to make notes and then used those notes make a diagram correlating all the abilities he was using with where they are located on my MMO mouse and keyboard.

    Then I went into MS Paint and did this. It's actually a work in progress depending on if I have it accurate or not, but it seems to sequence out correctly.



    Listen, I don't know if this is the best way for me to learn and memorize an opener, but It's working for me so far. I just wanted to share with you guys a little bit of the madness that is going on with me, and perhaps hear your own strategy for learning this kind of thing.
    You poor thing, this reminded me of last year's summonner openening when I studied it, took me 2 whole notebooks ahahaha, I hope you learned.

    though I never learn through key pressing but... skills, and then I put them where I feel it makes sense for nice finger dance movement...
    it's a skill--and finger dance rotat--wait I play game pad.... well, you get the point! lol but I wonder if your method is .... good for kb/m user...
    I should someday attempt this.... complicated manner of learning! (Good luck by the way!)
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  3. #53
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    It's not complicated. They have simplified the info.
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  4. #54
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I strongly invite all melee and ranged physical dps to just use a controller. Tanks too, get in here. This looks like hand cramps.
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  5. #55
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I strongly invite all melee and ranged physical dps to just use a controller. Tanks too, get in here. This looks like hand cramps.

    Hard pass. I used a controller back in HW when my PC died and I had to play on the PS4 for awhile. I hated every minute of it and eventually moved my ps4 to my desk so I could use a KB&M.
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  6. #56
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I strongly invite all melee and ranged physical dps to just use a controller. Tanks too, get in here. This looks like hand cramps.
    Hard, hard nope. MMO mouse is where it is, baby!

    Keep one hand on shift/ctrl/alt, keep the other on your mouse and use your thumb for hand movement and youre good to go!
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  7. #57
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    Kanzer's Avatar
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    Kanzer Vardel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Looks like you're making things more complicated than they need to be.

    Practice the opener on the dummy, sleep on it, build muscle memory. It's not that complex.
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  8. #58
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    Tlachtga's Avatar
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I strongly invite all melee and ranged physical dps to just use a controller. Tanks too, get in here. This looks like hand cramps.
    i'd uninstall before i go back to controller. absolutely abhorrent way to play XIV.

    MMO mouse is an objectively superior way of playing.
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  9. #59
    Player
    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzer View Post
    Looks like you're making things more complicated than they need to be.

    Practice the opener on the dummy, sleep on it, build muscle memory. It's not that complex.
    This isn't that complex, though. He's just mapping everything that's on his screen onto the mouse and giving himself a visual aide - he is LITERALLY practicing muscle memory.

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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  10. #60
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    Gomez Addams
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    Lamia
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    Miner Lv 90
    I can't speak for the people recommending trying a controller, as I've never tried it on this game. I can recommend you invest in a Tartarus or something similar, though, if you really enjoy SAM. Rebind the keys so ctrl1 - ctrl5 are on the top row, the second row is 1 - 5, leave shift and tab alone, and set the rest in order from left to right as 6 through =. Set the thumb button to left ctrl. Now you have hot keys on one hand for 3 full bars: regular bar, shift bar, ctrl bar. You can drop the F keys entirely. You have a joystick, ctrl, and space on your thumb. You almost never have to take your finger off right click. Takes a few hours of getting used to the setup, but your keyboard becomes obsolete other than for typing and opening your inv.
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