Azem timeline confusion

[Rannie]

I hate to say cause you don't ask a woman her age but damn how old do we think Venat may have been? She straight out says that when we fought her in our past life we were less than half her age and also (though this is by their standard) that Emet is even too young to get wrinkles...

[Cleretic]

I hate to say cause you don't ask a woman her age but damn how old do we think Venat may have been? She straight out says that when we fought her in our past life we were less than half her age and also (though this is by their standard) that Emet is even too young to get wrinkles...

Incalculable, because we don't know how Ancients perceive time or how old 'old' is. Hell, basically our only frame of reference for the Ancients' perception of the passage of time is 'days exist and people sleep at night', which isn't exactly a groundbreaking discovery.

But if we were to hypothetically fit Ancient lifespans to the same relative length as a human lifespan of '100 years-ish' (which, mind you, also enforces an unwilling death on the Ancients which means it's also wrong), maybe she's... I dunno, fifty-ish? Not old old, but old enough to be the unquestionable senior figure in pretty much every group we see her in. It also means there's a decent stretch of time in 'less than half her age' where people are still grown adults.

Alternative answer: she was somewhere over four hundred, because if we take the 'less than half her age' comment to be literal, then we have to assume that 'half her age' is the upper limit of age any player character can be. And that upper limit is viera, with a lifespan of 200-250 years.

[Iscah]

Venat is also buddies with Hythlodaeus, a guy with no big-deal role on that level at all. I think she's just the kind of friendly busybody who's got some history with everyone. Which, according to what we know of the Azem role, is the actual job description.

Hythlodaeus is Chief of the Bureau of the Architect – maybe not ranking as high as the Convocation, but certainly not a nobody.

As for Venat and her likely age... well, she's old enough to have retired and kept on going, so despite having no apparent age and not seeming older than the others, logically she's more towards the "cool old lady" archetype.

Also it's possible that Venat still does some work with the Convocation as an advisor even if she's not an actual member any more.

[Gemina]

As for Venat and her likely age... well, she's old enough to have retired and kept on going, so despite having no apparent age and not seeming older than the others, logically she's more towards the "cool old lady" archetype.

Indeed. A lot of things allow for us to perceive her as such. You can likely attest that being a female Midlander during this part of the story really helps with the immersion and the seniority Venat has over us. Not that she needs the help being the heart of Hydaelyn and all, but other things like mentioning Azem being less than half her age, her appearance, and the sparring match also really help to put her in that position. Regardless of which race and gender you pick though, the current Azem is a Hyur and not as old, and likely not as physically imposing as Venat.

[Vyrerus]

Hythlodaeus is Chief of the Bureau of the Architect – maybe not ranking as high as the Convocation, but certainly not a nobody.

As for Venat and her likely age... well, she's old enough to have retired and kept on going, so despite having no apparent age and not seeming older than the others, logically she's more towards the "cool old lady" archetype.

Also it's possible that Venat still does some work with the Convocation as an advisor even if she's not an actual member any more.

I'll point out further that Hythlodaeus was up for Hades's seat on the Convocation first, and was likely visited by/suggested by its members to fill the Emet-selch position and Venat could have come into contact with him that way, if she didn't already know him.