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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    I stated that both were genocide and both were wrong. I am much more inclined to excuse the Rejoinings to some extent because they were a reaction to Venat's initial genocide. Did the people still exist? Yeah, maybe, but with a much reduced aether capacity and lifespan. A slow murder is still a murder, and the destruction of a culture is still genocide even if some of the people survive.
    Yeah, were it not for the Sundering there would be no need for the Rejoinings.

    Ultimately my view has always been that although it makes sense for the Sundered to do everything possible to ensure they are not wiped out without their consent, so too does it make sense for the Unsundered to take the same approach. The continued survival of one's self, one's loved ones and one's species is deeply ingrained into most beings in the form of the 'fight or flight' response and other similar instincts.
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    Miyo Mohzolhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Yeah, were it not for the Sundering there would be no need for the Rejoinings.

    Ultimately my view has always been that although it makes sense for the Sundered to do everything possible to ensure they are not wiped out without their consent, so too does it make sense for the Unsundered to take the same approach. The continued survival of one's self, one's loved ones and one's species is deeply ingrained into most beings in the form of the 'fight or flight' response and other similar instincts.
    But that's not what the Unsundered did.

    The Unsundered, as we've seen, included one who went on half-baked plans that backfired horribly on themselves despite being warned by their fellow Unsundered. All for "the one true god", which we know and they know is untrue.

    Then one of the remaining Unsundered avoided contact with the other Unsundered as much as they could, working alone to conjure up arbitrary tests of worth for the people they outright state they see no value in.

    Then the last Unsundered turned out to have been operating on poor memory and flawed starting premises, since they can't even remember why they're doing what they do, and so they continued on autopilot.

    Meanwhile, their Sundered colleagues are grudgingly following the Unsundered for their own survival (Igeyorhm, Nabriales), operating on their own motivations (Mitron), or the moment they are free from Unsundered supervision, immediately go off and do their own thing (Fandaniel, Loghrif). This is because the Unsundered did not bother to retain the loyalty of the Sundered colleagues whose help they required, instead making it clear that the Sundered Ascians were all expendable.

    I would argue the Unsundered Ascians did not do everything possible to ensure the survival of their loved ones. Instead, they did everything possible to ensure the satisfaction of their own selfishness and ego.
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