*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

[Cleretic]

I see you've doubled the numbers on the Rejoinings because you don't like how the Sundering math works out, but unfortunately for you, there were no genocides on the Source.

I was giving you the benefit of assuming that you also remembered that we've talked about this, and so I didn't have to re-state the actual definition of genocide as defined by the United Nations. Genocide doesn't mean 'total eradication'--and you know this even if you don't know the definition, because every genocide you can think of had survivors, and we still call them that. ...in fact, that is also true of the Sundering, which you do call a genocide.

Therefore, all the Calamities do count as two genocides (except the Seventh, which only counts as one but wasn't intended that way by the Ascians); the killing of the entirety of one people, and the near-killing of the entirety of another, while rendering the survivors in a condition hostile to continued life. That is why their rap sheet of both committed and intended crimes is so long; because crashing two planets together wrecks them both pretty badly.

...but I'm not sure why you're even deciding to re-argue this one, because you agreed on the main point: that at the time when it was an active, present decision to pick between them, both sides were pretty equally shady but fighting for what they thought was the best. It's just that afterwards, one side racked up a rather excessive K-D ratio.

We just need a villain to come along offering to sunder the sundered a bit more, and we'll have a ready-set list of arguments as to why there's no problem with that, and why they should accept it for some purported "greater good".

Well, why would they do it? Remember that the Sundering came from extreme circumstances; the only reason it was the right thing to do was because of what was coming if Venat didn't do it. Is there another legitimate planetary threat (actually, another two legitimate threats, remember that the Sundering was for both stopping the Zodiark sacrifices and an angle against Meteion) that can only be stopped by sundering the planet? Can we assume that this character is smart enough to have considered and maybe even pursued other options?

I mean, I know the answers you're going to give and want in return, because you jumped right out calling them a villain thereby immediately poisoning the well by declaring them wrong. But remember: The Sundering was not inherently good. The Sundering was inherently pretty awful, actually, it was just what Venat saw as the least awful option.