Roleplay Party Finder Account Suspensions

[kaynide]

Thank you. But he mentioned "including behavior that infringes upon laws". I can not see how it violates laws. OK, maybe in Germany it is not such a big problem. Cheers

This isn't a wiggle-room debatable thing. If two players, adult or not, engage in ERP and for any reason one of them decides to report it there can be consequences. The actual laws on the books are not the point here. They have full authority to decide how their game is played. Their house, their rules.

But if they start to allow only such behavior which is the least common denominator of all countries you can play FF14 then almost nothing will be allowed anymore. Mhhh ... not a good outlook for the players. :/

Common sense would show that such an extreme hyperbolic attitude is not one this company would embrace. Contrary to many online games, FFXIV has always been very hands off until there's a possibility for things to affect them in a big way. They don't have invasive anti-cheat measures or a file integrity checker. They basically don't care if you use mods unless you are abusing something that can be reported.

Allowing brothels to exist could seriously jeopardize their investments in Oceania for example.

[Nuki]

Iam sorry but are people here really pretending that a 18+ advertisement in a pf is not about explicit stuff???
You guys also believe that "Savage loot, mount titles etc - more infos via discord" is not about rmt right?

[Dyvid]

Original: https://www.cgmagonline.com/intervie...naoki-yoshida/

It's a very company answer to be sure. Though sometimes the statement and actually game doesn't add up. Officially they say no, yet add ingame items like "Dancing" Poles.

I'm not against the practive but it can be problematic because the fact is you might have an "adult" ERB with a minor, I mean it's not like you can card someone in the game. Also RMT comes into play. Lots and lots of issues can happen.

In any case, I know there is more to the original posters story than what is told. Someone didn't care for what was "advertised", most likely in the city /sh not the PF.

[Hunky]

18+ doesn't have to mean erp, but you can't deny that 18+ carries that association. At the least, 18+ suggests content that isn't suitable for minors.

You can use it in the hopes of discouraging minors from going to your event, but who's to say it actually will. Unless the minor is being supervised, that minor might decide to join your event and you would never know.

This is what they're trying to prevent.

Place yourself in the shoes of an outsider and look in.

If you place an 18+ advertisement on the party finder, no matter what the nature of your services are being offered, you're potentially exposing minors to that.

An 18+ advertisement on the party finder would be enough for a GM to start investigating. And like everybody has seen, it doesn't take much investigation to discover that the venue offers erp.

Honestly, 18+ content (no matter what it is) shouldn't be advertised on the party finder. This is not an M rated game.

Think about it. People buy this game for their kids thinking it's relatively safe because it's rated T and then find out there's a bunch of 18+ going on. Keep it off the party finder.

[kejakalope]

Why in the world would you willingly go into someone's room where the other person clearly has the intent to engage in adult RP, only to report them?

You can't report on behalf of others, it would have had to have been one of the persons involved.

Because they're advertising gil-for-ERP on their carrd, and linking to their carrd in the advertisement. There's also adult images on the carrd, which is enough to get you banned all by itself. This has all been covered up-thread.

[technole]

I like to think of the old Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas situation that allowed a mod to enable player to rail their g/f in a player scene instead of behind the scenes that set an example in the industry, and why anything that could affect ratings is spelled as prohibited behavior.

It was like a sex emote in a scene. ESRB immediately changed GTA's Mature rating to Adults Only, game was pulled from retail shelves, got banned Australia right away, among so many downstream problems and civil lawsuits. Rockstar left the assets in the game because during development they intended to push boundaries but sided against such and only disabled it, allowed mod developer to basically re-enable it.

Ratings do really matter because the Federal Trade Commission keeps a close eye on ESRB stuff, and pushing into AO territory is a death wish.

[Escalon]

I will add one more thing to what I've posted before and it does not apply directly to FF14 only.

I'm always confused how the vast majority of people, not just gamers, but people in general accept violence, drugs, gore, genocide in their media, but god help us if we have anything erotic or straight up sexual in the media.

[Lily_Skye]

good

about time SE

[Atreyu]

I like to think of the old Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas situation that allowed a mod to enable player to rail their g/f in a player scene instead of behind the scenes that set an example in the industry, and why anything that could affect ratings is spelled as prohibited behavior.

It was like a sex emote in a scene. ESRB immediately changed GTA's Mature rating to Adults Only, game was pulled from retail shelves, got banned Australia right away, among so many downstream problems and civil lawsuits. Rockstar left the assets in the game because during development they intended to push boundaries but sided against such and only disabled it, allowed mod developer to basically re-enable it.

Ratings do really matter because the Federal Trade Commission keeps a close eye on ESRB stuff, and pushing into AO territory is a death wish.

This is in no way comparable. In the GTA case, the game itself was at fault. The devs themselves made that explicit content and left it in the core game files.
This isn't comparable to a third party modding game files or every single game would be, potentially, forced into an AO rating.
Look at some of the explicit mods for Skyrim for example. They're definitely out there, and Bethesda doesn't do a thing to try and take them down.
Yet the game remains M+ because third-party mods aren't in the core game.

To be clear, it's fine that SE doesn't want these mods out there in the public eye or anything.
They can do whatever they want to preserve an image that they want to maintain on the surface, but the situations aren't even remotely the same.

[Kes13a]

That in itself should be an offense. Disruption of gameplay.

since RP and ERP is not officially gameplay, that would be a stretch.