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  1. #33661
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    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who who who who who

    Its way more chaotic every time and when i get to tank it in the middle, everything is fine. I learned it that way all the way back in Heavensward, pulling it back didnt happen for a LONG LONG time and suddenly, everybody INSISTS on pulling the dragon all the way in the back to the point you get flamed by saying that isn't needed. Why?

    Because of the skeletons? Just aoe them down!
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    Last edited by Cheremia; 01-11-2022 at 09:12 PM.

  2. #33662
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    Sono Faolain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who who who who who

    Its way more chaotic every time and when i get to tank it in the middle, everything is fine. I learned it that way all the way back in Heavensward, pulling it back didnt happen for a LONG LONG time and suddenly, everybody INSISTS on pulling the dragon all the way in the back to the point you get flamed by saying that isn't needed. Why?

    Because of the skeletons? Just aoe them down!
    People don't trust others to kill adds in time. And, tbh, can't blame them.
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  3. #33663
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    People don't trust others to kill adds in time. And, tbh, can't blame them.
    I wouldnt blame them if pulling the dragon in the back wouldnt lead to the skeletons running around, exploding, and doing more damage anyways.

    Its such a chaos because nobody at the dragon will bother to run towards the middle to kill some of them and then run back to the dragon. So the few people in the back or healers, have to turn around, target the spread skeletons and try to kill them.
    And I learned it as a healer, who can easily you know... heal, too. I know people run these raids because braindead but some people really also dont want to hit buttons (that sounds meaner than its supposed to, i'm sorry).

    Overall, i can confidently say its way more chill to stay in the middle after having to run Labyrinth a LOT these past few weeks to level classes. If people dont hit the skeletons anyways, it makes no difference if they aoe or dont.
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  4. #33664
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    Pugging Savage is making me distrust lalafell players. Every deliberate griefer has been a lalafell so far.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

  5. #33665
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    icrot's Avatar
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    Rovam Lumdaris
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    Just had another lovely Expert Roulette experience with a tank that used all the mitigation skills at the same. They had multiple tanks at a high level too. I managed but I wanted to cry.
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    Oishi Tamanegi
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    I had the weirdest run I ever had in my life doing smileton the other night. I went in as BLM, and our tank was DRK, had a sweet miqo sage, and a highlander monk. The run started off horrible, the drk was at like 3% health almost instantly and never got above 20%, I thought the sage was just a terrible person at this point. Moved to the next pull,and everyone died but me and the sage at first. She swift cast raises the tank who stayed dead.. and I siwftcast sleep the pack. Now, the pack slept the entire duration of my sleep and I'm sitting there looking at the sage and kind of confused at what's going on. The monk goes lol the mobs!! I mentioned I slept them. The tank raised in the moment the pack awoke, the healer dies I died in that same moment, then the tank dies a horrible death, we wipe and run back.

    Boss time, I died horrible because I'm not familiar with the mechanics, I apologies and the miqo sage and highlander monk were both super polite and said nw you're doing alright

    The run continues, the tank pulls to the next wall, the sage dc we somehow survived, barely. Tank runs all the way back to the first area and the monk stands there totally silently. We waited maybe 5 mins.. I said hope they were all doing good tonight.. total silence. Sage reconnects and we get to the boss great. Next pull after sage continues to have either connection issues or neglects healing tank. They died horribly again, we manage to survive.. final boss comes up and I goofed on a bombing right at the start but didnt die. The safe followed me tho and almost dies. She made a mistake on the next bomb and gets 2nd vuln stack.. we get about 60%ish and healer and j both died. Tank and monk get it to roughly 50% and we wiped. Anyhow the run finally complete, I said thanks everyone the monk and sage both said thanks and we all leave. I got a comm. This was the possibly the strangest run I ever had.. funny but just weird.
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  7. #33667
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    Jettinson's Avatar
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Nothing crazy but in Second Circle normal, we had a wipe and one of the dps pretty much bailed on us because of Chi fate and then 2 more left while a healer DC and kicked that out after refilling our party.

    It was kinda funny though
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Escalon View Post
    To be fair, I am a greedy son of B when I'm tanking, especially on Zod EX.
    I just assume all melee -- especially tanks -- will be greedy on that fight and eat mechanics, and mentally budget healing resources to account for vuln stacks.

    But if you hit 5 vuln stacks, I stop budgeting healing resources for you, and instead budget 2400 MP for the rez. 'cause there's only so much of someone else's greed I'm willing to foot the bill for.
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    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  9. #33669
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who who who who who

    Its way more chaotic every time and when i get to tank it in the middle, everything is fine. I learned it that way all the way back in Heavensward, pulling it back didnt happen for a LONG LONG time and suddenly, everybody INSISTS on pulling the dragon all the way in the back to the point you get flamed by saying that isn't needed. Why?

    Because of the skeletons? Just aoe them down!
    I wish more people would call this out. To my understanding, goblin server started it. I first only seen it when I transferred to balmung from faerie. It wasn’t a thing on aether. But dragging the dragon I find chaotic, time consuming and sloppy. Healers know the skeletons are coming. Get your shields up and medica 2s going. When they spawn, melee are in range to kill them if dragon is tanked in middle.
    Really wish we could stop this tactic. It gets on my nerves
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  10. #33670
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who made it cool to pull the dragon all the way back in Labyrinth of the Ancients
    Who who who who who

    Its way more chaotic every time and when i get to tank it in the middle, everything is fine. I learned it that way all the way back in Heavensward, pulling it back didnt happen for a LONG LONG time and suddenly, everybody INSISTS on pulling the dragon all the way in the back to the point you get flamed by saying that isn't needed. Why?

    Because of the skeletons? Just aoe them down!
    Tanking it in the middle is how it was always done back when I first started, around March/April 2015 - near the end of ARR. The skeletons were always dragged away by some people, then that just stopped and healers actually healed through the damage.

    Speaking of the above...

    The other day(it was either Friday or Saturday), we actually wiped to that fight because the healers threw one heal out each. Sure, one of them was Medica II, but a single Medica II and a single Eukrasian Prognosis definitely aren't enough to keep people up...I've never had all three alliances fall at basically the same time(our WHM just sat there after most people died and let everyone else get eaten...we could have finished the fight still since it was the third time the dragon rose from death). The ensuing drama of "tank it at the north wall" and "it's never been tanked in the middle", followed by people just being outright jerks was insane.

    Then last night...got that raid again(I swear, if I get another CT raid in alliance roulette for the next few months, I'm instantly bouncing, I am sick of that series!) and one of our ranged kept stepping off and back onto the platform during the Atmos fight, causing alliance B to not be able to constantly attack. Queue someone from B pulling the next boss instantly, and me - a RPR - being the only one in my alliance to get the buff to be able to damage Thanatos. They also kited him around the arena, so I just sat down and waited out the rest of the fight.
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