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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciaMirain View Post
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    Confession: I can't do savage or ultimate because I can't dodge aoe for anything. I have too much latency, and I am terrible at Dance Dance Final Fantasy. If I can't heal through when aoe hits me, I can't really do it. Your stories sound like a good time though! I definitely wish SE would get away from all the aoe spam and instant death mechanics. Some of the EW dungeons and fights have been a frustrating slog.
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    Last edited by Anxin; 01-10-2022 at 01:13 AM.

  2. #322
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    As much as I would love to see redesigns in encounters that make healers heal like they do in other mmos , with increased difficulty (as in you cant be a lazy healer and succeed) , lets not forget that this is a game where the devs facilitated a portion of the community who demanded an easy option for instanced MSQ quests , and complained that "in from the cold" mission in garlemald was too hard and refused to see reason behind the intent of the quest.

    We will never get proper healing in this game, it would cause a twitter/forum meltdown if the healing/actions per second went up to match what is considered normal in other mmos
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  3. #323
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen View Post
    We will never get proper healing in this game, it would cause a twitter/forum meltdown if the healing/actions per second went up to match what is considered normal in other mmos
    This is why I can't stand this community sometimes. Whine/complain about any instance of effort required in their "story focused" game.

    A good portion of this community just afk's in limsa and goes clubbing after finishing the msq and will do nothing else. Do we really need to design battle content around them when they complain a 2 button rotation is too complicated? They'll sub to the game regardless so as long as new glams and housing props get added (like a stripper pole).
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    Quote Originally Posted by anhaato View Post
    The biggest issue is that square just can't reconcile that some people won't play some jobs optimally. Instead of accepting that people will do that and complain about jobs being hard, they lower the skill ceiling on them. Sure it might make the more casual players happy, but even then for a job like this it's very rarely going to make someone who hated the job start loving it and want to main it. Meanwhile those who enjoyed it before feel alienated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    I can assure you p4s door boss slaps the party a lot and pretty hard in some situations. P4s phase 2 has actually almost no healing until the curtain call mechanic were you have too break 8 tether that deal raid wide damage in a specific timing. Healing wise this raid tier is actually pretty relaxed. Also pretty sure they use some gcds for p3s because fountain of fire phase deals for every tower you soak tower 99 % hp dmg too the healer soaking it (you have 3 tower and both healer are on opposite sides doing that).
    This raid tier is really pretty heal friendly still. No Titan maximum stuff
    You are insane. The healing alone on ps2 literally pushed me and my co healer to our limits. I HAD TO EVEN LEARN HOW TO USE MITIGATION before aoes like illumination.
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  5. #325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen View Post
    As much as I would love to see redesigns in encounters that make healers heal like they do in other mmos , with increased difficulty (as in you cant be a lazy healer and succeed) , lets not forget that this is a game where the devs facilitated a portion of the community who demanded an easy option for instanced MSQ quests , and complained that "in from the cold" mission in garlemald was too hard and refused to see reason behind the intent of the quest.

    We will never get proper healing in this game, it would cause a twitter/forum meltdown if the healing/actions per second went up to match what is considered normal in other mmos
    In the cold was toxic, I almost rage quit the game over that mission it deserved a nerf it was hard for no reason and zero reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    In the cold was toxic, I almost rage quit the game over that mission it deserved a nerf it was hard for no reason and zero reward.
    How was it hard? You basically play a lv5 Gladiator who is sync'd up in a large open field with LOTS of HP regen items. And if you havent known this before already, the Quest also teaches Players how to walk past Line of Sight aggro from enemies and avoid confrontations in the first place.

    I think it is unfair to the Community as a whole that Content in general needs to be dumbed down just because a handful People like you cant adjust to a situation which should be all too familar at that point of the game.

    I am not aganist the idea of things having a easy mode, but easy mode shouldnt be the new normal.
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  7. #327
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    In the cold was toxic, I almost rage quit the game over that mission it deserved a nerf it was hard for no reason and zero reward.
    I play other games besides FF and to me it was actually a surprisingly good instance with a fresh game mode compared to the rinse and repeat quests. I liked it a lot actually. I liked a lot of the instanced quests in this expansion.

    I did not like the "follow and hide" type of quests only due to its nonsense. Like I follow someone for half an hour just to jump them the minute they stop next to a random rock? Like wtf? Why not just call out to them instantly then?

    But I digress, this is not the topic of this discussion
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  8. #328
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    In the cold was toxic, I almost rage quit the game over that mission it deserved a nerf it was hard for no reason and zero reward.
    Cleared it on my first try, no idea what any of you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    You are insane. The healing alone on ps2 literally pushed me and my co healer to our limits. I HAD TO EVEN LEARN HOW TO USE MITIGATION before aoes like illumination.
    You should have already known about Fey Illumination, and how to use it. But there again is the downside of most of the content design in this game: allowing players to get away with not using key elements of their kit. And then there’s a surge of complaints when they are required to use something that they should have been making a habit of using in the first place.

    Pressing Fey Illumination before a raidwide isn’t any different than pre-shielding. Or dropping Sacred Soil. It’s not more difficult, and it could honestly stand to be standardized in this game.

    What they said still stands though: once you figure out the healing in P1S through P3S, it is fairly easy. Healers are simply too strong and have an answer for everything—most of which are oGCD. P4S door boss slaps way harder, and I’d say it’s the healing wall in this tier.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 01-10-2022 at 04:09 PM.
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    So there was a live stream with something called "Radio Mog Station", and in the interview, Yoshi-P states this.
    "...But rest assured your Job will not be neglected and keep on with giving feedback in the Official Forums, as long as you do it politely!"
    He then goes on to talk about how we should be more friendly in the way we give feedback, stating that, "...it will result in staff members being gradually hurt and it's especially evident when they worked super hard on it, and this doesn't help anyone... This will completely drain their motivation and they'll end up quitting because of it..."

    That's all fine and dandy, okay, whatever. But I have issue with my first quote. Maybe it's because it's 1 AM and I'm deadly tired and over thinking things, but it comes off as blaming to me. If they say to keep passing feedback to the OF, surely they're aware of the issues we have, right? Which means that the only reason we're not getting what we ask for us because we're not being "polite." This just baffles my mind, because I feel as if the majority of the posts that I've read in my time lurking have been polite. No insulting to the staff. Just frustration at the lack of communication. In fact, to me the only thing that could be construed as such is pointing out they don't have a healer dev, which it certainly seems like, given the recent changes.
    I dunno man, just, SOMETHING about that first quote REALLY rubs me the wrong way.
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