Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Avatre]

What is with farm parties today that can't even finish a fight?

Trying to farm EX 2 today, and none of the 5 parties could get past the 8 person stack, then light party stack, near the end of it. Every single time we get to that, one of the healers doesn't move, and we wipe due to them taking at least half the party with them, and more often than not taking the other healer. It's not hard to remember that after the first set of light waves there, you stack then move to your groups marker. Why is it that no party today can get past that, and it's just a tank, a dancer(me), and one or two other DPS left alive...none of which can res most of the time. I just want to farm the weapons and mount.

[SturmChurro]

What is with farm parties today that can't even finish a fight?

Trying to farm EX 2 today, and none of the 5 parties could get past the 8 person stack, then light party stack, near the end of it. Every single time we get to that, one of the healers doesn't move, and we wipe due to them taking at least half the party with them, and more often than not taking the other healer. It's not hard to remember that after the first set of light waves there, you stack then move to your groups marker. Why is it that no party today can get past that, and it's just a tank, a dancer(me), and one or two other DPS left alive...none of which can res most of the time. I just want to farm the weapons and mount.

"Farm" parties.

[Kolsykol]

What is with farm parties today that can't even finish a fight?

Trying to farm EX 2 today, and none of the 5 parties could get past the 8 person stack, then light party stack, near the end of it. Every single time we get to that, one of the healers doesn't move, and we wipe due to them taking at least half the party with them, and more often than not taking the other healer. It's not hard to remember that after the first set of light waves there, you stack then move to your groups marker. Why is it that no party today can get past that, and it's just a tank, a dancer(me), and one or two other DPS left alive...none of which can res most of the time. I just want to farm the weapons and mount.

A lot of people just join expecting to get carried, I see so many people with unmelded gear or +12 to make it look like they have melded properly/ are cheap + no food buff.

Tbh I don't use food buffs on first pull anymore, I feel the group out first because too many parties collapse in one or two wipes but if we've been going for like an hour and you don't have a food buff and no melds etc then wat are u even doing there lol.
Even worse when we actually do manage to clear and they get the loot which happened in my First Circle Savage clear.
It becomes pretty obvious very fast who's not putting in an effort, and not rly talking about being good but just '' I am trying ''.
So many people hop in expecting it to be like the MSQ trial.

A lot of people also probably think that they can just watch a guide and then know it.
I don't rly even feel good about joining farm parties after the first clear, I want to clear it with a practice/ prog party a couple of times first to be rly sure.

[Avatre]

A lot of people just join expecting to get carried, I see so many people with unmelded gear or +12 to make it look like they have melded properly/ are cheap + no food buff.

Tbh I don't use food buffs on first pull anymore, I feel the group out first because too many parties collapse in one or two wipes but if we've been going for like an hour and you don't have a food buff and no melds etc then wat are u even doing there lol.
Even worse when we actually do manage to clear and they get the loot which happened in my First Circle Savage clear.
It becomes pretty obvious very fast who's not putting in an effort, and not rly talking about being good but just '' I am trying ''.
So many people hop in expecting it to be like the MSQ trial.

A lot of people also probably think that they can just watch a guide and then know it.
I don't rly even feel good about joining farm parties after the first clear, I want to clear it with a practice/ prog party a couple of times first to be rly sure.

I tend to only join farm parties if I've been able to clear it without taking excess damage. If I can do it while avoiding everything that can possible avoided, I feel comfortable enough to be able to farm it. Otherwise, I will stick to the prog/practice parties until I get to that point.

[Intellion]

So I queued up for roulette as DRK and got Amaurot. My party members were a sprout WHM and BLM, and a combat mentor NIN. First wall-to-wall pull, and I was pleasantly surprised that the sprout WHM was keeping me alive very well... however, the DPS was slow... actually, way too slow that both me and the WHM burned through most of our CDs.

Next W2W pull, and the unnaturally slow DPS actually made both me and the WHM run out of CDs and wipe. At that point I was certain that someone wasn’t doing their AoE rotations. While I turned off other people’s animations, I was sure it couldn’t be the WHM, because the mobs were getting stunned. So before the next pull, I temporarily turned party members’ animations back on, and easily saw on the next pull that the one who wasn’t AoEing... was the mentor NIN... who had most of his combat classes at 90 BTW.

So after that pull, I simply said “Make sure to use your AoE attacks on trash mobs.” No one said a word, but by the next pull, the mentor NIN was finally AoEing too. Seriously though, for sprouts to be doing better than combat mentors... this really makes my head hurt.

[Makeda]

This tank "I'll just pull slower" after we wipe on a pull. Yeah, nah. I left. If I have to start spamming cure 2 to keep you up on a dungeon pull, that's not on me. lol.

That's how I tank. If I notice I'm not being kept up enough, I slow down my pulls until I like where my health is staying.

"If I have to start spamming holmgang and every last mitigation cool to stay alive on a dungeon pull, that's not on me."

In truth - it's a balanced job. I should only need to use a mitigation cooldown or two when I've got 2+ pulls on me. Especially if I don't even need most of them in boss fights. And a healer should be keeping up all the OGCDs and doing what it takes to allow me to pull at a high speed, rather than focused on their own personal DPS. Yet there have been some runs lately where I've had to keep holmgang on cooldown in TRASH pulls... when I only need it in boss fights after the healer has lept off the side of the map, DC'd, or something...

I can completely self heal through trash if I take it one pull at a time... and when I do more, even just a simple regen is enough to let me keep the pace up... but some folks can't even spare that.

[SturmChurro]

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In my case I dropped asylum, assize, the bell, divine benison(s) tetragrammaton.. for me to have to spam cure 2 means I have used everything else - including lillies. That is not normal on a pull I have done many, many times. Some tanks expect to be babysat and spam healed, when actually, the faster the mobs die the easier the pull is.

[Zeich]

Gonna add another to the "oh no, I did a dumb" list of DF things.

Alliance raid on my DRK trying to get tomes, end up in Ridoranna. Crap, I haven't done this one in a while, and while I remember numbers bot and a little bit of Famfrit... so many mechanics on other fights are just blanks for me. Most of it was fine except for one real doozy in which I screwed up: Belial. Now here's my mistake: I have Zadnor Belial on the brain, so for me, the rotating clocks were automatic. I completely and utterly forgot that they were triggered by people stepping on them here. Cue me not once, but TWICE accidentally turning a clock towards the entire raid because I accidentally stepped on them without realizing it. Raid was not pleased, and I don't blame them. Didn't wipe anyone to them! ...I think. Maybe. Whoops.

[Kolsykol]

Weekend experience in Second Circle Savage, four times in a row get to the last phase and then my internet starts getting bad and I have to leave...
Spend hours on end with groups that are meant to practice end phase or clear, no one in group knows what they're doing except like 2 or 3 of us.

Today was spent with a strange amount of '' pf elitists '' for a lack of a better term ( all of them had Ultimate weapons except one, the SAM. Does it come with a big bucket of ego lol? ).
First was PLD who explained mechanics and then asked if someone didn't understand in a really obnoxious way, when someone asked for clarification ( the explanation was really immaturely and poorly written ) he was all like '' wtf did you even read ''.
And then he proceeded to call people apes and just be really toxic and obnoxious, he had a pretty transparent '' I am the bestest and I am here to carry the lowly peasants '' with a mix of the most stereotypical Twitch frat boy attitude imaginable.
And he kept writing in single sentences spamming the chat like 8 times when it could've been said in a single one.

The second was a WAR that kept taking indirect jabs at the dps constantly between every pull, and I think we went for like 2 hours and it was in EVERY pull to the point he made a big deal because we were 1% off from where he thought we '' should '' be based on his static ( wonder why he was doing it on pf then? ).
EVERY.
SINGLE.
PULL.
Constant indirect jabs and jammering on about it.

The third time it was the SAM who couldn't stop saying '' aightttt '' between every pull and call people out which for the most part was fine in the beginning because yeah it was from second arrows and people didn't even get the blue and red marks right until after many pulls...
But then he also started becoming more toxic as time went on and the further we progressed.
There was a WHM who quite frankly was the weak link, and when he pulled by accident and the WHM went '' lol '' he lost his shit and started bringing up everything the WHM had done wrong before and that he should stfu.
I told him to relax a little and that was it.
Later on we got to the 3 circle aoes you need to run from and a lot of people didn't know what to do and just moved on the first one then stood still on the second or ran into the head.
And he started targeting me about how I was running too fast ( which I wasn't at all... I've done it many times before I know how it works ) saying that I was sprinting ( I wasn't ) then when I said I wasn't it was supposedly my NIN passive that was at fault which no lol.
When I tried to explain that the boss drops 3 aoe circles and you need to keep moving he told me to stfu while he explained when he had no idea what he was talking about and started talking about running into corners.
As soon as he started targeting me I felt like leaving I don't want to play with those kinds of people but I felt bad because we had actually progressed quite a bit, but when people went back to wiping at the same early mechanics I was like ok thx but no thx.
I would've stayed longer if it wasn't for him tho but he just totally killed my mood and made me not want to be there.
Seem'd like being the party leader got to his head and made him think he could just talk however he wanted to people.

Last party we got it to 1% enrage but people had died ( particularly a Healer who died multiple times ).
And then again people went back to wiping to earlier mechanics and Healers forgetting to mitigate the raidwide damage that hits rly hard..

I have no idea why the second Savage is so much harder to clear than the first, because imo it's actually easier than the first...
People find different fights harder but I really don't think it should be THAT much harder even so.
I am just kinda salty because I don't think I'll get the clear before reset..
Regret not starting earlier last week and rly tired of people joining further progressed groups when they clearly have no clue.

[Driavna]

This tank "I'll just pull slower" after we wipe on a pull. Yeah, nah. I left. If I have to start spamming cure 2 to keep you up on a dungeon pull, that's not on me. lol.

You need to relax or find others to play with you at this point.