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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    I thought people might be exaggerating about SMN

    Nope. The job is dead. I must have gone through the skill list at least a dozen times trying to figure out what I was missing because I actually had empty slots. I honestly don't know how it went live like this.

    I know people complained about the original complexity, but damn talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They went to such an extreme in the opposite direction I could almost set a metronome to the button presses. Now easily the most mind-numbingly boring job in the game.

    Also it feels like physik is bugged because it says 400 potency but heals seem to be a fraction of that value.

    I actually regret having leveled the job now.
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Also it feels like physik is bugged because it says 400 potency but heals seem to be a fraction of that value.
    It still scales with MND instead of INT for whatever reason.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 82
    I disagree, it feels a lot more active now. Although I only say this from experiencing pre-Endwalker Lv.50 Summoner and I thought the whole applying the whole dots game was kinda lame and boring. Comparing to how traditional FF Summoners are supposed to be I like that you get to spam all of their special attacks.
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  4. #4
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    it feels a lot more active now
    Compared to what? You barely do anything at all now.
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    The job is dead.
    Hyperbole much?
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Make the default carbuncle attack and have it proc some stacks for your abilities and it would already be more engaging.

    As of now it's just sad seeing the carbuncle stand there, more often staring at you casting spells than at the enemy.
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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    Hyperbole much?
    Hardly, when compared to not only it's own previous iteration but every other job in the game. They went way too far.
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 82
    I feel that in of itself is a gross exaggeration, comparing to all the other magical dps jobs where everything has a rhythmic rotation. The only difference is that Summoner is much faster on the draw along with giving you much more mobility.

    I personally find it fun I guess so maybe IM just the weird one.
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    Klee Zunners
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    Midgardsormr
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    Monk Lv 88
    I mean, a job that can fill every hotbar up is just bad design.

    New Summoner is way better off than it was before. Much cooler too.
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Hardly, when compared to not only it's own previous iteration but every other job in the game. They went way too far.
    I can play RDM blind. It was the only way for me to do a boss without UI (last boss of 85, the marks only appear on my screen when I have it off). That wouldn't have worked with a SMN, who doesn't have a complete autopilot rotation. And yet, and despite having a res and a heal that actually heals, RDM is still ahead in damage.

    So yeah, I don't think SMN is in a bad spot gameplay-wise, I think it needs some potency buffs.
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