To all the sprouts(new people) out there...

[Avidria]

What's funny is this MUST WALL TO WALL ALWAYS ALWAYS EVERY TIME thing was like... New to me. As someone who came from wow lmao
Like yeah people steamroll dungeons in wow for sure, but dungeons in wow are also (somehow) even more ridiculously faceroll easy than in 14, and at the time I started playing 14... I mean I was still seeing groups wipe in stone vigil cause they couldn't handle pulling too many dragons lol

I mean I don't usually wall to wall in the lowest dungeons unless I'm queued up with friends because I just don't trust pugs like that but if you can get away with it like... Why not honestly

[Bobby66]

...now, that's fine for a tank, but if a dps decides to do the pulling, they're flipping a coin on whether the tank and healer decide to let them go ahead and try out that take role they seem to be so keen on playing.

Still not zero see no reason not to. Galaxy brain tank do not want someone else pulling for ya just do not give them anything to pull.

[Darthgummibear]

You could have vented your frustrations without trying to make WoW players look bad. Crazy idea I know.

That's true I suppose, and for that I apologize. Where else should I direct my frustration, because by every observable factor on my end it has grown much worse in the past few weeks.

[SherlottaEryut]

This isn't world of warcraft.

Stopped reading after this.

The whole WoW VS Final Fantasy thing got boring ages ago.

[Seera1024]

That's true I suppose, and for that I apologize. Where else should I direct my frustration, because by every observable factor on my end it has grown much worse in the past few weeks.

At players who just bumrush things. At the people causing you frustration. Not at an entire group of people that include those who aren't doing the thing that's causing you frustration.

[TristanX]

I encountered a tank today with HP dropping a lot on first hit. Pulling double packs. Used all my CDs and cleared. Then it happened again. Tank died. I kept 1 dps alive while kiting.

[Loonies]

For me it is up to the tank if it is good to do wall to wall or not. When i am in the tank job i do mostly one group and sometimes two groups. When i am as a healer in the dungeon, yes sometimes the tank does wall to wall pull, but there is no thing like you have to pull wall to wall, you can pull group by group if you like.

[Atreides]

I've been playing FFXIV for years and wall to wall pulls are perfectly acceptable and were always a thing. Unless someone asks me to go slower because they are first timer and want to read texts.

[Hysorn]

I don't get it? In ARR dungeons you can safely pull up to 3 packs in ARR dungeons, can even pull up to reaching the boss depending how good you healer is and in HW forward you just do wall to wall, the game supports and encourage you doing big pulls, it lines up DPS cooldowns well, Tanks can easily survive them and healers have to actually, well, heal, otherwise they just spam their one DPS attack until tank gets to half health.

I mean, now that you mention it, because of M+, WoW players would be more used to pulling pack by pack instead of wall to wall.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

As a tank I only full pull.

As a healer I expect full pulls.

As a DPS I hold cool downs till the entirety of the dungeon has been pulled.

Never played WoW before btw