Often people say that Dark Knight is in a bad spot, but what other Jobs...

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

-Would also be considered in a bad spot?

Like Dark Knight bad.

[Seraphor]

NIN is clunkier
SCH has gained nothing and fallen behind the other healers for it.
ASTs cards are terrible now (but it's saved by it's healing kit)

[Floortank]

DRK is fine, functions just as well tanking as any other tank.

SCH still a god.

AST cards very good, dps love getting them and I love handing them out.

[Jeeqbit]

DRK is almost the same as Shadowbringers and that's part of the problem. It has hardly gained anything new and exciting. It could use some haste at least.

A lot of people were saying that scholar hasn't changed either, but in the raids I've been in scholar's speed buff has been a really big deal. I didn't think it would matter at first because we have sprint but it's like having sprint up more of the time for more mechanics and it's helped party finder to do mechanics successfully when they would have been too slow otherwise.

I don't like that AST's cards don't work toward divination, but they seem to work toward Astrodyne instead at least. It actually feels busier closer to how it was when Shadowbringers released and not in a good way because I'm struggling to remember that Divination and Minor Arcana exist now that they don't light up. It's not so bad, I still get to play cards and that's what keeps AST fun over the other healers that have nothing to do.

[kejakalope]

DRK is fine, functions just as well tanking as any other tank.

SCH still a god.

AST cards very good, dps love getting them and I love handing them out.

This, yeah. DRK's problem is that its kit feels kinda clunky and samey, not that it doesn't work.

[Liam_Harper]

Most healers in general. WHM is just straight up inferior at healing, SCH has the usual downsides that come from some of your oGCD's being tied to a separate AI that you snack on for 30 sec periods and AST is amazing at healing but riddled with useless button bloat. WHM remains popular simply because it's straightforward and more fun than AST or SCH's tedious features. Sage has flaws too, but it's in a great spot and clearly got all the attention.

NIN is the least popular dps by quite a lot. Monk is Monk.

DRK is actually quite strong on dps and its mitigation is "fine", it just has so many outdated, inferior or clunkier abilities and Living Dead is so rubbish that similar to AST, people don't even care if it's a meta class because it's not fun.

[Duskane]

machinist
still has its design flaws and didn't gain too much

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

DRK is fine, functions just as well tanking as any other tank.

SCH still a god.

AST cards very good, dps love getting them and I love handing them out.

From my experiences runs always ran better under Warriors. Healing DArk Knights is kinda annoying too in Raids, Dungeons, and the such. I much prefer healing Warriors or Paladins.

[Floortank]

From my experiences runs always ran better under Warriors. Healing DArk Knights is kinda annoying too in Raids, Dungeons, and the such. I much prefer healing Warriors or Paladins.

Your experience suggests confirmation bias.

If you wipe in a big pull with a DRK, and your only thought is "omg DRK bad", you're overlooking other potential causes.

1) DRK player isn't mitigating correctly.
2) Healer isn't healing correctly.
3) DPS aren't DPSing correctly.
4) Combinations of the above.

I've partied with two different DRKs from 80->90 in Endwalker so far, and neither one of them had a single problem doing wallpulls.

[Jeeqbit]

DRK doesn't even take damage because of TBN, unless they forgot to put it on their hotbar.