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  1. #211
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    ASkellington's Avatar
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Oh,yes. Not getting something you want means you shouldn't get something you want.

    This sort of logical processing is a trait I definfinitely lack.
    Side note, this isn't how I read it, personally, but it could be inferred that way, yes.

    I didn't because I believed that instead of saying I, and other healers like me, should be alienated, that you want me instead to reach an accord with players who are satisfied with the status quo. Problem being, they don't want to give on anything.

    We want more damage to heal so that our current tool kit is actually worth something. They say "no because it will be too hard for the less skilled". While this wouldn't be an issue if the devs PROPERLY TUNED DUNGEONS. Fine. We'll bite.

    We then go to having more dps options. Not what I want at all, but it's all we can get to "reduce downtime" without changing anything else. Fine. They say, "no, because then you high skilled raiders would complain the less skilled or new healers aren't doing enough".

    I'm just going to refer to my previous post:

    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    And before we cycle back to "it pressures newer healers into doing dps" and "higher skilled people will yell at them to be pressing more buttons" again

    If a new or less skilled healer is healing more than dpsing because they cannot handle the extra dps yet, no one is going to berate them. It isn't as if they're standing around doing nothing but casting cure 1. They're obviously trying to dps and heal at the same time. As an AST I have yet to be called out for prioritizing healing over dpsing or even my own cards. This is an extremely minor issue and if anyone is being harassed report them. Its that simple.
    We can't win basically is my point.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  2. #212
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    AFuzzyMu11in's Avatar
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    Tiramisa Damsela
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    Hardcore Raiders shouldn’t decide balance. Players like myself who do duty finder/do normal raids/extremes/savage and alliance for clears/farming not to just parse orange or w/e it’s called are the average IMO. Not the hyper optimized no offense to people like sebazy.
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  3. #213
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Heeerree weee goo aggaaaiinnn.

    I'm dying. Please think for my rib for once; it's hurting.

    This is why we can't have nice things.
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  4. #214
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    Nemene Damendar
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    To ignore the troll for a moment, I saw an article yesterday where Yoshi was interviewed about button bloat. The gist I got from it was

    "We did a lot of great consolidation/automatic swapping in Endwalker, but we're at the limit of new abilities as of this expansion. Mostly because of healers. Other roles can get upgrades and combos, but healers have a lot of buttons that do different things so we can't really use the same space saving techniques"

    You don't think that maybe that's a sign of a badly-designed kit? That perhaps the reason you find it hard to make skills flow together because they don't interact with one another, and that's a BAD thing?*screaming internally*

    Healers are perfect in FFXIV. There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
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  5. #215
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    Catherine Shinomiya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    To ignore the troll for a moment, I saw an article yesterday where Yoshi was interviewed about button bloat. The gist I got from it was

    "We did a lot of great consolidation/automatic swapping in Endwalker, but we're at the limit of new abilities as of this expansion. Mostly because of healers. Other roles can get upgrades and combos, but healers have a lot of buttons that do different things so we can't really use the same space saving techniques"

    You don't think that maybe that's a sign of a badly-designed kit? That perhaps the reason you find it hard to make skills flow together because they don't interact with one another, and that's a BAD thing?*screaming internally*

    Healers are perfect in FFXIV. There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
    Meanwhile i can think of at least 2-3 buttons per healer which can easily get consolidated to make room for new stuff.
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  6. #216
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya View Post
    Meanwhile i can think of at least 2-3 buttons per healer which can easily get consolidated to make room for new stuff.
    Cure and Benefic trait upgrades would be a nice start.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #217
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    Cure and Benefic trait upgrades would be a nice start.
    I think I have read somebody's post before about combining Esuna with Cure I/Physuck/Benefic I.

    Personally, I liked that idea while also reminding me of "Purify" from Healers' kits in PvP. Basically to remove debuff with a little reward of increasing the heal amount IF the target has anything removeable. When used plainly without any debuff to remove, it's just a small heal otherwise. Oh, and it's an oGCD too. Copied directly from the official site:

    Restores own or target party member's HP while also removing Stun, Sleep, Bind, Heavy, and Silence.
    Cure Potency: 2,000
    Cure potency is doubled when a status affliction is removed. Can be used regardless of own status affliction.
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  8. #218
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    To ignore the troll for a moment, I saw an article yesterday where Yoshi was interviewed about button bloat. The gist I got from it was

    "We did a lot of great consolidation/automatic swapping in Endwalker, but we're at the limit of new abilities as of this expansion. Mostly because of healers. Other roles can get upgrades and combos, but healers have a lot of buttons that do different things so we can't really use the same space saving techniques"

    You don't think that maybe that's a sign of a badly-designed kit? That perhaps the reason you find it hard to make skills flow together because they don't interact with one another, and that's a BAD thing?*screaming internally*

    Healers are perfect in FFXIV. There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
    no dude we NEED to have fey blessing. that regen tick worth of an aoe heal on a minute long cooldown is essential for scholar you see

    sarcasm aside, i dont know how they dont notice the "different things" most of healers' buttons do all actually are just the same shit but with very slight differences.
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  9. #219
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    Duduno Wawawen
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    For real though why is fey blessing so bad? It’s so useless, what’s the point?
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  10. #220
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    At least Fey Blessing doesn't cost fey gauge now?

    Progress! Sort of.
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