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  1. #361
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    Irzephaira Ryphaszela
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Still we will need a minor change: make all roulettes "join in progress" force on by default.
    Or at least, make it so, that if you checked said setting, then it stays until you turn it off.

    New players that play tank will otherwise never see the full dungeon xD
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  2. #362
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    Yeah… it’s been pretty depressing in alliance roulette ever since people found a way to cheese along with relics and story slapping a requirement to it as if we needed more reasons to see CT. New players unlocking is one thing but there was a time where we at least got variety in roulette :/ . The few times I bother to que up and of course get slapped in there, there’s always people grumbling about never getting the other raids. I would use roulette more if CT was just removed from it and placed in its own roulette or something. Until then… just nah.. I’ll just stick to Eureka or something to get my tomes and stuff.
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  3. #363
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Or at least, make it so, that if you checked said setting, then it stays until you turn it off.

    New players that play tank will otherwise never see the full dungeon xD
    I did say forced it for roulettes and nothing else. Any other content should still be optional.

    Also, I always have that option turned on and generally que as rol in need. Getting dutys in progress is extremely rare.

    The whole idea behind forcing "joining in progress" is to ensure quick replacements, in particular for alliance roulettes.
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  4. #364
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Lets remove all rewards from duties remember it's fun right you don't need them. Please stop.

    I have fun doing roulettes and other stuff. I run Main, Alliance, Leveling and do Pixies mostly at the moment. If i had to be forced into higher level alliance roulette raids on a regular basis i"d run a trust. I'd get probably the same if not better xp rewards the the time investment would be about the same if not lower.

    If I want to run Neir raids for the glamour items guess what I'll queue for them and so on. I'm don't here this is going nowhere.
    No one said they will be getting forced and that there will be no rewards?

    I said give people more ways to earn the rewards besides Roulettes.

    We had a massive increase in our playerbase, no one can actually say, they know how those numbers react to certain changes, besides the devs. We dont know what amount of people likes x or Y.

    I myself as you are just guessing here.

    If you want more rewards because you think its tedious, I hear you.
    What I dont understand is, that people force others into CT by using an exploit.

    To be very blunt here, I am sure its not really the case, but what you say, in my understanding, sumounts to:

    I wanna play Alliance-Roulette, that means there is a whole list of duty's that I will agree to.
    Wait, its not Crystal Tower? That sucks.

    Thats why I said, it would be better to get your rewards by simply going Crystal Tower in the first place, right?


    Many said that would kill the the fun for newbies, who never get their duty to pop, because its Toto-Rak AND THAT MIGHT BE TRUE.

    I don't know, you don't know, only the devs could tell.

    I did not mean for this to escalate, if I offended you, Im sorry. You seemed frustrated, thats not what a discussion should be.
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  5. #365
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    I did say forced it for roulettes and nothing else. Any other content should still be optional.

    Also, I always have that option turned on and generally que as rol in need. Getting dutys in progress is extremely rare.

    The whole idea behind forcing "joining in progress" is to ensure quick replacements, in particular for alliance roulettes.
    Ah my bad! Thanks for clearing that up!
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  6. #366
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    RocciaSolida's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kejakalope View Post
    Don't queue if you don't have the time to do the content.
    That was not my point and your answer doesn't make sense
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  7. #367
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    Quote Originally Posted by kejakalope View Post
    Don't queue if you don't have the time to do the content.
    How do you know how much time you need when some of the alliance raids vary wildly? That's part of the reason people cheese to que for crystal tower, its consistent timing. HW alliance raids are much tougher especially when people don't get them often (Yes that is a problem) but they are also longer if they go smoothly anyways. If your planning your time would you rather something that takes 18-21 every time or something that ranges from 18-45+? I've been in some HW raids where we bashed our heads for about a hour. No-one left but if that was the norm I wouldn't que for alliance raids for the amount of xp they give.
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    Last edited by Osseric; 12-28-2021 at 11:44 PM. Reason: Quotes

  8. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    No To be very blunt here, I am sure its not really the case, but what you say, in my understanding, sumounts to:

    I wanna play Alliance-Roulette, that means there is a whole list of duty's that I will agree to.
    Wait, its not Crystal Tower? That sucks.
    I want to be very blunt here too. Seems to me you refuse to understand and acknowledge why some people are doing what they do and refuse to simply accept a simple solution to the problem. A model exists for Main Story roulette and that should and can be applied to alliance as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osseric View Post
    I've been in some HW raids where we bashed our heads for about a hour. No-one left but if that was the norm I wouldn't que for alliance raids for the amount of xp they give.
    Bingo! And you're not alone. Welcome to the forum as well given that was your first post.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 12-29-2021 at 12:15 AM.

  9. #369
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    I find this frustrating as well. I don't care if a raid takes a bit longer. When I engage in a roulette, to some extent I am doing it a) to get a random experience and b) to enjoy all of the fun, varied past content.

    This is not enjoyable for me when I just get Labyrinth of the Ancients repeatedly. There is a lot of fun, repeatable content that I almost never play anymore because people aren't actually playing the game to enjoy it...they are just grinding it out.

    There is definitely something broken about the system when I can't enjoy any raid but LoA through roulette, and outside of roulette no one is queueing for any of the other raids.
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    Are we really so strapped for things to talk about that we need to necro this post?
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