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    Quote Originally Posted by Exosapien View Post
    Dude was going off about LGBT people and that if only we all were just like Neil Patrick Harris then LGBT people would be tolerable. I didn't drag anyone into anything.

    Why do some people ignore all context for some sort of "gotcha" moment?
    Look,

    I'm gay and I unironically understand your struggles, particularly when you said people don't understand. There is too often no mutual recognition.

    But the forums are the last place to debate this, not because I think game forums should only be for games (that's a self-serving argument for people to cherrypick topics that they like). It's that it doesn't encourage mutual recognition, nor does it reward existential authenticity.

    You can either be a Stoic and retreat inwards, or you can live authentically and assert your self-being externally, in the real world. But the forums, really?

    It's not that there's a time and place for everything. I'm not about useless platitudes like those. It's that it is completely pointless to talk about anything seriously to 99% of humanity. For my part, the LGBT threads that someone made over the years have convinced me that the termites are never gone, they've just retreated into the core, the collective unconscious, with polite society as the bastion to ward themselves with.

    Knowing this, why do you care? Who do you seek to change? On the forums no less? Direct your energy at something more worthwhile.
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    Last edited by Skiros; 12-21-2021 at 02:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Look,

    I'm gay and I unironically understand your struggles, particularly when you said people don't understand. There is too often no mutual recognition.

    But the forums are the last place to debate this, not because I think game forums should only be for games (that's a self-serving argument for people to cherrypick topics that they like). It's that it doesn't encourage mutual recognition, nor does it reward existential authenticity.

    You can either be a Stoic and retreat inwards, or you can live authentically and assert your self-being externally, in the real world. But the forums, really?

    It's not that there's a time and place for everything. I'm not about useless platitudes like those. It's that it is completely pointless to talk about anything seriously to 99% of humanity. For my part, the LGBT threads that someone made over the years have convinced me that the termites are never gone, they've just retreated into the core, the collective unconscious, with polite society as the bastion to ward themselves with.

    Knowing this, why do you care? Who do you seek to change? On the forums no less? Direct your energy at something more worthwhile.
    That could be said about any single person in this thread and pretty much every thread on this forum. Waiting in queues, not at a place where we can play, whatever. It's just wasting time no matter what we're talking about. I wasn't throwing a fit about anything, I made a statement and then people started responding, so I responded in kind.

    It's really not that deep and I have no problems talking about LGBT topics, I don't think there's any reason not to talk about LGBT topics - and specifically telling people they shouldn't talk about LGBT topics is generally a reason why you should talk about LGBT topics, or any other topic that people tell you "doesn't matter" or "doesn't belong." No one should be silenced just because some anti on the internet gets in their feelings about it.

    Plus, hearing that LGBT people would be tolerable if they were all just like Neil Patrick Harris is such a goofy take that it should make anyone laugh.
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