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    Quote Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina View Post
    Endwalker is plagued with the same problem as Stormblood; trying to tie up too many storylines in too little time and trying to do too many things at the same time.
    Too little time? This is the largest expansion in MMO history in terms of cutscenes and length. Hell if anything I thought they over did it on the size.
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    I don't like Dynamis, everything else is ok. But introduction of dynamis conception looks like crude decision. Like if screenwriter suddenly realised that ancient ascians were too powerful for every confrontation, so he quickly come up with new type of hidden energy totally uncotrollable by ascians.

    But despite this I like Endwalker in general, i had good part laugh, imbued with power moments, was surprised and even shed couple of tears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vukimukinukiduki View Post
    I don't like Dynamis, everything else is ok. But introduction of dynamis conception looks like crude decision. Like if screenwriter suddenly realised that ancient ascians were too powerful for every confrontation, so he quickly come up with new type of hidden energy totally uncotrollable by ascians.

    But despite this I like Endwalker in general, i had good part laugh, imbued with power moments, was surprised and even shed couple of tears.
    It doesn't seem crude to me, but that's because we've seen things prior in the game that it suddenly explains. Limit Breaks for one, another being emotions powering Dark Knights. It's also somewhat of a real life phenomenon, where people are temporarily able to do things that shouldn't be possible, like lifting a heavy tractor to help somebody get out from underneath it despite never having the strength to do it before. All they've really done with the introduction of Dynamis is give a name to a phenomenon...which also fit kinda brilliantly for how it would be the downfall of the Ancients, they didn't exactly have heavy emotions like people normally do, like they were stifled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vukimukinukiduki View Post
    I don't like Dynamis, everything else is ok. But introduction of dynamis conception looks like crude decision. Like if screenwriter suddenly realised that ancient ascians were too powerful for every confrontation, so he quickly come up with new type of hidden energy totally uncotrollable by ascians.
    The concept of thoughts, emotions and feelings shaping reality has been a thing since the 1.0 era. Primals, for example. They do kinda just gloss over it with the earliest ones, but by the time we get to Ramuh and Enkidu, and ESPECIALLY with Shiva, the concept is pretty well-established. It's just that it has always been some background thing, but it has been there. Dynamis just takes it to a much greater extreme.
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    re: Dumb Dialogue

    Pentagon has used humanitarian groups to spy on countries before.

    We as Scions, have spied, infiltrated, and killed thousands of people throughout our playthrough. Guys, we're not that nice... Garlemald was right in not trusting us. If this had been any time prior to destroying towers, we would have wiped them out. How many times have you ran that LV 50 story mission? Have you cried over the hundred of thousands of Garlean citizens you murder daily in this crazy deathloop? No, none of you, so stop pretending to be compassionate.

    Endwalker was good but it stopped short of being great. The apocalypse should have been happening all over Eorzea. Our Kings from other nations should have been fighting them, citizens should have been transformed, cities should have been in ruins. This should have been happening prior to receiving parts to rebuild the ship and kept going after we left for space. Seeing nations in ruins, meteorites showering in every zone would have turned any nay sayer to a yeh sayer, as Endwalker being the best expansion.
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    Last edited by Accursed_Immortal; 12-15-2021 at 09:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoosa View Post
    Now IMO I feel the story really becomes stupid - we end up going back in time (zzz) to Elpis which was an amazing zone but then we find out that Hermes creates a bunch of terminators who want to destroy the world because people must not be allowed to feel negative emotions and life as to be pure pleasure at all costs or it’s worthless living. I could handle the moon stuff, I could handle the monsters, but this was ridiculous.
    I understood Hermes when he thought life shouldn't be curated but left to a natural process. Even when he let Meteion go I was still on his side thinking, well maybe he wants to let his "daughters" live. But then Meteion went kind of bonkers saying all life is just suffering and it should end. I look towards Hermes thinking, "It's time to turn off the crazy and let her go... back to the aether." Nope he went full on koolaid and joined her.

    The only reasonable explanation I could think of to make this story good, is that while the Ancient excelled in nearly everything, they simply haven't developed any form of psychiatric help. Hermes suffered from Major Depression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    That's fine if you say it's a taste thing and if you don't like those super popular villains and I agree that different people like different things, but you did claim that the "generic doomsday villain" is a thing in every Final Fantasy which is not true at all.
    Someone didn't play FFI, FFIII, FFIV or FFIX did they?
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    I would love to see anyone defending the search of 8 researchers in a big ass yellow search area quest, hahaha.

    That's when it truly struck me about how it can feel like they force us to do things not because they're the must fun thing to do, or the most effective way to tell the story, but simply just to pad things out and stretch the expansion time beyond what is truly necessary.

    Also did anyone truly feel anything/impacted at all when they "killed" the Scions one by one in the last area? I honestly didn't feel anything because I am 100000% sure they would bring them back anyway in the end, hahaha, so the impact is greatly diminished by that; the "deaths" felt very meaningless despite all the theatrics and grandeur.
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    Last edited by LaughingBanana; 12-15-2021 at 05:04 PM.

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    It’s funny, when you mean Hermes, he comes over a basically a nice guy who cares about his creations and you see he can’t bear to kill off the bad creations that run around killing things, and it pains him to terminate them. So then he decides “screw this, I can’t handle this responsibility, the world deserves to burn” instead of “screw this, I can’t handle this responsibility, im going to get another job”. Feels like they shoe-horned him in at the end because they didn’t have enough story to get to 90? We also know at this point that there’s no way they will let the world burn, because then we can’t go back to the other zones and do any endgame, so for me it was kinda eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoosa View Post
    It’s funny, when you mean Hermes, he comes over a basically a nice guy who cares about his creations and you see he can’t bear to kill off the bad creations that run around killing things, and it pains him to terminate them. So then he decides “screw this, I can’t handle this responsibility, the world deserves to burn” instead of “screw this, I can’t handle this responsibility, im going to get another job”. Feels like they shoe-horned him in at the end because they didn’t have enough story to get to 90? We also know at this point that there’s no way they will let the world burn, because then we can’t go back to the other zones and do any endgame, so for me it was kinda eh.
    Out of all the characters in EW, I am confident in saying that I actually hate Hermes the most. Can't stand stuck up characters like him who is so convinced about his self-righteousness that he is blinded to other things, a blindedness that in the end killed so many and almost destroyed everything.

    Kinda annoyed that they included him on the nice art at the end, hahah.
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