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  1. #33161
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    I've run it equally as much since it was released - and it was purely a healer issue. The DRK was on the add very quickly and in the brief span of time that it and Scathy were separated, his health plummeted due to his healers just... not healing him, I guess. This wasn't the first time I saw his health go down that fast, either.

    Meanwhile, no heals went out on my WAR buddy either - one of our SGEs was just sort of sitting there, the other was spamming their... I assume their primary damage spell? (I haven't touched SGE yet so I have no idea what half the skill names are lmao) The only heals he said he got were the Kardia ticks. This was also not the first time they were left without healing, as well.

    The healers didn't even bother to heal anyone who got hit with someone running one of the tornados on everyone at the first boss. They also didn't bother to raise me or the MCH when both of us went down at separate times from Doom. :| I was constantly having to resort to Second Wind or finding my MNK friend for a Curing Waltz, and praying if I got hit with unavoidable damage that at least one of them would think to use an AoE heal.

    I'm not quick to blame healers, but I also play healer enough to recognize when someone is just not even remotely doing the primary function of their job, lol.
    Fair enough in that case. I do tend to be a wee bit leary when shade is thrown at the healers in situations where it could very well NOT be their fault. It reminded me of an old post in this thread complaining about dying after the healers wouldn't remove the Doom from Angra Mainyu in WoD. For the unaware, healers can't remove the doom there..

    But anyway, healers can muck things up plenty good on their own, and Dun Scaith is a rather unforgiving raid if you don't know what you're doing (for any role). I do love that place though.
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  2. #33162
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Running The Dead Ends for tomes currently, and I just had a run that took 50 minutes, we had 2 reapers, a sage, and a DRK tank, me being one of the reapers.

    The tank was only single pulling until after the 2nd boss, and there they would start pulling 2 packs and just barely avoiding dying because the SGE couldn't heal him faster than the mobs could damage him. It was a long slog to get to the last boss and it wasn't helped by the fact that the other reaper had about a 50% uptime when it came to actually being alive.

    Last boss took 5 attempts, and every attempt ended when the healer ended up dying with the reaper maintaining the same 50% life uptime, tack onto that the fact that he pretty much refused to use his group damage buff UNLESS I use it, then he immediately overwrites it. I can wait 10-15 gcds and he never uses it, but as soon as I use it he immediately overwrites it in the same gcd, only exception being when he was floortanking
    (6)

    Watching forum drama be like

  3. #33163
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    At this point I am just genuinely getting triggered by people who on purpose don't do positionals.
    And every time they're the worst and stand in everything too, I've said it many times over and I'll say it again.
    If you're the type of player who don't put in any effort because '' it's not a massively gigantic enormous difference '', then it probably says something about you as a player overall and you probably don't put a lot of effort into it in general which adds up.

    I ran a quick Tower of Zot before logging out as Tank and the entire dungeon the freaking SAM was running in front of the boss and standing in every AoE tank busters included.
    I positioned the boss away from the party but how it ended every time was WHM and SMN on two sides of the boss and the SAM just insisting to run in front of the boss so no matter where I turned the boss it wouldn't matter.
    I told him '' did you know they added damage to the positionals on SAM? '' ( which they did, now there's even less of an excuse to ignore them... ).
    Which he responds with that he didn't and the proceeded to ignore them.

    The run was horribly slow for obvious reasons, just ffs plz if you're gonna play like this use Trust.
    I've been running into so many more players like this than usual after Endwalker launched if you're not going to put any effort in then the devs literally put a system for you into the game so you're not a burden to other players.

    Just so tiresome having to essentially carry one or even multiple people almost every dungeon and things taking forever.
    Like at least read your tool tips, just wat...
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 12-14-2021 at 01:10 PM.

  4. #33164
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Tower of Zot, tank was AFK for the first few minutes, and we did the first 2 groups of mobs as single pulls since we didn't have a tank and the healer was the one who pulled the mobs so me and the other dps went along with it

    Tank comes back from being afk since the start of the dungeon and for some reason they're creeping behind us, stopping as we pull groups, and eventually getting to the point where they're standing in the middle of our pulls but not doing anything or grabbing aggro. At some point we wipe as the tank watches because I assume the healer underestimated some of the burst damage from the mobs, that's about when the screenshot below happens

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    Watching forum drama be like

  5. #33165
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    juicybug's Avatar
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    Sophia Bettencourt
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 91
    Had a dungeon run where I was a DPS, and the tank was doing single pulls of mobs (no big pulls at all) but I didnt question it, im just a dps and not there to cause an issue.
    healer decides to just stand there, do nothing for first few pulls. healed once in a while but that's it.
    I asked the healer if they were ok and they said "yeah, solo pulls though, mega boring. gonna watch youtube and afk instead." and they weren't kidding. we kicked them and got a new more patient healer.
    (3)

  6. #33166
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    If the healer and both DPS die when the boss is still above 90% on the level 87 dungeon with first-timers, maybe, yeah... Maybe don't hold them hostage soloing it for over twenty minutes?
    (4)
    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

  7. 12-14-2021 08:14 PM

  8. #33167
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    Hatfright's Avatar
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    Mist
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    Character
    Sono Faolain
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    I just had weirdest experience in my whole ffxiv time.
    Queued for lvl 85 dungeon as NIN, 7 min waiting, as expected. It poped with "they've been here for 20 min".
    I'm thinkin "Oh no", cuz that can't be good, right?
    Wrong. I load in just in time for the last boss kill. Not even the fight, kill.
    As soon as I'm able to even see the dungeon, victory music plays. As in turnes out, dps left in the end of fight.
    Well, I got 1.3 mil exp for doing nothing and a piece of loot. That's nice.
    (7)
    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  9. #33168
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    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Arya Diavolos
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    If the healer and both DPS die when the boss is still above 90% on the level 87 dungeon with first-timers, maybe, yeah... Maybe don't hold them hostage soloing it for over twenty minutes?
    Sounds like something I would do out of sheer spite. Maybe try not dying next time :Y.
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  10. #33169
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    icrot's Avatar
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    Rovam Lumdaris
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    A couple of days before the EW launch I was doing Leveling Roulette with Monk. The tank was a 60 something Paladin with a mix of 20 and 30 level gear. They never activated the tank stance even after being asked multiple times. Luckily it was just Sastasha so we managed but still... Some people are ruthless.
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  11. #33170
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    Gridania
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    Rinh Neftereh
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    got the last MSQ dungeon in expert roulette and I instantly knew from the names of the players alone that it'd take a long, long time, 45 minutes in fact
    during the first pull, the healer decided to just run to the fricking seashell to read it and let the tank die, which made the tank apologize because they're most likely whipped by snippy healers
    so we try again, this time, no issues, second pull time and.... the healer does it AGAIN but comes back in time to benediction the tank
    the healer died almost immediately to the first boss which forced us to wipe, then did it again on the second try, though we managed to live through the rest of the fight on our own, all because they didn't esuna themselves
    next pull, the healer does the same 'let's read mid pull' thing again which, of course, gets everyone killed
    the tank was probably seething hard at this point and resigned themselves to wait for the healer and their dps buddy to read those things first
    so; everyone read those little story bits, that means we can pull, right? hah! despite the tank going through all cooldowns, he still died to the double pull before the 2nd boss because the healer somehow didn't manage to keep them alive! did I already mention that said whm had obnoxious macros? because they did
    single pull time it is, then, but, you guessed it, the healer literally walks away mid pull to read instead of healing, again
    the last boss was fine until the tank and dps had doom stacks and the healer didn't heal them, nor did they heal me when I was at around 25% and right next to them jumping up and down before the next raidwide, which meant I promptly ate dirt
    at least the second attempt at the last boss went fine
    oh and also the ring I needed dropped after like 10 dungeons without it dropping, but of course I lost it to the other dps lmao

    I would've voted to kick them if it wasn't for the fact that I already waited around 25 minutes for the dungeon to pop in the first place
    ra-la, I beseech thee, free me from this DF hell
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