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  1. #51
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    There are no denial of semi-conductor shortage and COVID hit hard on global economy.

    However, it is no excuse that SE could have prepare better. EU server have been near capacity since early 2019. EW launch are practically worse for NA and worst in EU. The difference in JP DC vs EU and NA to some extend have only SE to blame. At this point nothing will change the issue for NA and specifically EU. SE should really learn from this mistake and take better action in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overthier View Post
    All you have to do is to notice he has a Ron Paul quote in his signature. He really should see someone.
    Just because they have a quote they should see someone? So in other words want them to become another pill popping someone like doctors treat people all the time these days
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    You know what I don't get?? Why billionares don't just buy everything. Why don't they just buy it?? Just buy everything. Even things that don't exist-you have money, right? Simply buy it. Pay someone for it. Select anyone off the street and tell them, "why yes, ONE chip please! and several servers, I'll be needing those by noon". It's really not that hard. You know, I often wonder why most of you who clearly know better than SE don't just simply go and run SE yourselves. You're clearly all onto something here... Alright, new plan. Replace the CEO with one of you guys. If that had happened, there is no WAY it would have played out like this. Absolutely no way, we wouldnt have made it past ishgards restoration-iiii meannnn and anyway!

    They had plenty of time to see this coming. They're billionares. You can't tell me they own no crystal balls. The local psychic 10 minutes away from me has one, and you mean to tell me that SE doesn't?? Alright, one of you tarot reading types. Let's hire you too. And Astrology fans-I'll bet Yoshi is a Scorpio and that's where we went wrong. Let me check. He's a Taurus, oh I knew it. That's kinda cute actually lol. Awww omg Taurus men are so good with art..ok anyway what was I

    RIGHT. SE is stingy everyone. Who here is good with money???
    That's a trick question, you all have a sub.

    Well, I've played many MMO's in my life and I have to say by far this is the WORST LAUNCH I have ever-no Bless online doesnt count, that's different. New world doesnt count either. That one Tera patch that completely obliterated their economy in a way that years later they still havent recovered from-that wasnt like, that wasn't a huge patch day, it was a smaller patch day so. We don't talk about Blade and Soul eithe-LOOK. All I'm saying is. This could have been done way better in my opinion, the opinion that I just wrote, right here, in my Mr.Grinch pajamas in my squeaking wobbly rolling computer chair with a million puncture holes in it via my cat that snores louder than I do. Clearly I am one whos opinion should be held in great regard, just like everyone else here.
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  4. #54
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    This train officially derailed and is heading straight into a medical treatment discussion!

    To get back to the topic, won't happen. A month of free gametime for everyone would be really much money. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    Just because they have a quote they should see someone? So in other words want them to become another pill popping someone like doctors treat people all the time these days
    And comments like this are why we have such issues with people seeking help for their mental health.....*sigh*
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 12-09-2021 at 10:31 PM.

  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    This train officially derailed and is heading straight into a medical treatment discussion!
    Yet this problem could have been (partialy) mitigated. Early access could easily have been made part of the more expensive package (with an additional $10 cost hidden into it). This money could then have been used to get some stuff arranged, or be used as indirect compensation.

    But without any extra purchase costs, EA idealy should have been granted based on randomness, and not be promoted as a guarantee with the purchase. But to promote earlier purchases, you could do a daily lottery, so early purchases simply get more chance of obtaining the early access token. This way you can limit the number of people that want to get in to play the new expansion. The only downside is spoilers, although an NDA can cover some of this (posting spoilers outside of the dedicated forums then can cause a permanent ban on your account). This at the same time also makes people more willing to wait for the actual release (and this is NOT a problem either!).

    The main reason to not want this, is because now the game gets negative news about it, but negative news is still news, and news brings attention, which is still part of marketing. In fact, in the early blizzard days it was used as a 'look at how popular and good our game is' type of marketing. So it very likely is a deliberate choise to take such risk. Most players will accept the 2 weeks of hassle as they dont see any rush to complete the story as long as spoilers arent being posted anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    A month of free gametime for everyone would be really much money. xD
    Its also very likely that the subscription costs have a decent profit margin in them already. 20% is no strange value. This effectively means that 10 months can provide 2 free months, and still not be an issue. Updates are covered within the expansions (and in a healthy business, they should sustain itself. And this can be maintained if the expansions are good, because that warrants a higher price). Now obviously, expansions are also made to force people to subscribe longer by making them less quickly bored. But again, the majorty should be playing longer than what is needed to cover costs.

    Combining those aspects, and the free month might just become part of the marketing budget. Who knows if they already reserved the money for it anyway? And otherwise, new players can reduce the cost of a free month.

    They already have a massive number of f2p players, that alone tells me that server costs arent that high anyway.
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    Don’t forget that that have like twice the subs count for what the servers can manage so in 1 month they paids the extra month
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    The 2002 error hasn't popped up for me once since they patched the login server on Tuesday so if your still getting it there's a good chance its not on their end but something inbetween.

    As for the queues just remember that these login queues will only persist for a while, eventually things will calm down after a few weeks they always do. The semiconductor shortage is real even if people don't want to accept that truth but if they can get their hands on more hardware they'll definitely do so to alleviate the current constraints, unfortunately people have to be patient.
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    Last edited by Raiya; 12-10-2021 at 01:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiya View Post
    The 2002 error hasn't popped up for me once since they patched the login server on Tuesday so if your still getting it there's a good chance its not on their end but something inbetween.

    As for the queues just remember that these login queues will only persist for a while, eventually things will calm down after a few weeks they always do. The semiconductor shortage is real even if people don't want to accept that truth but if they can get their hands on more hardware they'll definitely do so to alleviate the current constraints, unfortunately people have to be patient.
    Nah 2002 errors are still getting confirmed by a lot of people on reddit, a bunch of discords etc, there was even like 5 or 6 servers with technical difficulties after the maintenance. Some people are also randomly getting 90ked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    A month of free gametime for everyone would be really much money. xD
    oh come on, a month of free time is only like 10 bucks... /s

    seriously though, i cringe so hard whenever i read something like "oh come on square, a week of gametime is like what? 3 bucks?" as if they are only giving free time to a single account. there have been lawsuits for some really shitty things that got settled by companies bigger than square that didn't cost the kind of money these free week cost square.
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    Last edited by Akiudo; 12-10-2021 at 04:27 AM.

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