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    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Looks like Sage is dead on arrival. Still a 1 button spam job since they couldn't buff toxikon to be equal or stronger than 2 regular dosis attacks

    welp SE I'll wait for patch 6.1 for the emergency changes to see if you notice this major problem before I write off healing for good. Possibly this game depending on the msq.


    i'll update the summary of healer issues at some point in the next few days for when the hype dies down
    I mean it’s like every other healer and has now more mana gain then sch. Whm is dead as hell mana wise and astro got a slight dipp at his essential dignity and nothing else after. Like at this point astro, sage and scholar can be played while whm begs in the street for some mana o gain abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Oki that’s something at least++

    The mp return is particularly noteworthy of those I think? Maybe they are intending us to need to spam heals more
    You actually believe that sebaz? They won’t increase healing requirements ever. Whm looks so mana starved that if you want to clear content with it you can’t make heal checks or the job runs out of mana after 2 minutes.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    You actually believe that sebaz? They won’t increase healing requirements ever. Whm looks so mana starved that if you want to clear content with it you can’t make heal checks or the job runs out of mana after 2 minutes.
    they did cut a lot of its mp costs. Its still got piss poor mana regen

    they seem to think its even more overblown healing is going to make up for it. Or the extra 5 potency on lucid dreaming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    they did cut a lot of its mp costs. Its still got piss poor mana regen

    they seem to think its even more overblown healing is going to make up for it. Or the extra 5 potency on lucid dreaming
    100 and 300 mana isn’t going to change how mana starved you get when you use glare a lot in down time. It’s like we told here already they actually have no clue what too do with healer.
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    Upgrades Physis to Physis II.
    weren't these two separate before o.o


    edit https://youtu.be/z4y6sYpJW_o?t=223
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    Last edited by relhsur; 12-02-2021 at 09:00 PM. Reason: yeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by relhsur View Post
    weren't these two separate before o.o


    edit https://youtu.be/z4y6sYpJW_o?t=223
    They were, but they also made Physis II 60s. Sage has a heal boost every 60s. That's kinda bananas. I think the shields granted by Haima and Panhaima were also buffed.

    Literally, the only things Sage really needs is Toxicon equal to two casts of Dosis and charges on Icarus. (and, well, an AoE DoT, but SE doesn't want any healer to have DPS buttons because "hEaLeRs ArE sUpPoSeD tO hEaL, aNd We DoN't WaNt To ScArE nEwBiEs")
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    Ideal state of tanks: You cannot hurt me in any way that matters
    Ideal state of DPS: I can kill you and leave no forensic evidence
    Ideal state of healers: What did you say? Honey, hold my flower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    Literally, the only things Sage really needs is Toxicon equal to two casts of Dosis and charges on Icarus. (and, well, an AoE DoT, but SE doesn't want any healer to have DPS buttons because "hEaLeRs ArE sUpPoSeD tO hEaL, aNd We DoN't WaNt To ScArE nEwBiEs")
    if they did that we'd just be using Eukrasian Diagnosis every time it gets eaten O.O

    edit: (excuse my overthinking this) that'd make sadge so hecking broken, free single target heals with no repercussions on dps (isn't it 1k+ potency at times with crit) PLUS free movement because it's instant cast.. not even including the movement you get from toxikon lmfaaoo. i'm so sorry are you guys trolling??????///
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    Last edited by relhsur; 12-02-2021 at 10:03 PM. Reason: zonked

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    Whm is even worse then ast his base heals that identical have higher cast times. Just see cure 2 to benefic 2. One 2sec another 1.5 making whm feel worse. Ast deserved that change but wish whm had same cast time even if not needed
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  9. #29
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Looks like Sage is dead on arrival. Still a 1 button spam job since they couldn't buff toxikon to be equal or stronger than 2 regular dosis attacks
    I think you (and some others, to be fair) are putting way too much of your expectations on toxikon. Sage looks broken AF just from its baseline potencies and those didn't get reined in at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I think you (and some others, to be fair) are putting way too much of your expectations on toxikon. Sage looks broken AF just from its baseline potencies and those didn't get reined in at all.
    What I care about is fun not strength.

    That change would provide some depth and reward for healing and therefore fun and vary up the gcd so its not just constant dosis which is the biggest problem healers have rn.

    But they haven't.
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