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  1. #32961
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    Jettinson's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I haven't touched Iconoclasm for months so I felt so confused and ended up MT so guess what happened to the first minute?
    I ended up killing all 4 dps with the beam tankbuster, damn it just end me
    (3)

  2. #32962
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    I haven't touched Iconoclasm for months so I felt so confused and ended up MT so guess what happened to the first minute?
    I ended up killing all 4 dps with the beam tankbuster, damn it just end me
    epic lol

    I see a lot of tanks on the "third guy" send the line into the Alliance.
    (0)

  3. #32963
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    been spamming dungeons this last week. (almost got everything to 80! so close)

    got two tales - a 35 min qitana ravel run with a tank who single pulled the entire time, and a 45 minute dohn mheg run, again with single pull tank.

    i knew single pulling made dungeons take longer but by god i didnt realize it would be *THIS* bad.
    (3)

  4. #32964
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    Baconeater's Avatar
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    Adron Fableaux
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Sounds like tank was not the problem - crap DPS not killing stuff fast.
    (1)

  5. #32965
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    Miles064's Avatar
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    Elisandra Voras
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    been spamming dungeons this last week. (almost got everything to 80! so close)

    got two tales - a 35 min qitana ravel run with a tank who single pulled the entire time, and a 45 minute dohn mheg run, again with single pull tank.

    i knew single pulling made dungeons take longer but by god i didnt realize it would be *THIS* bad.
    Yeah, no. I single pull cause I'm a tank scaredy cat and my opinion of randoms in this game is mad low(imagine having huge parts of your kit that you just refuse to use for some reason?). Even single pulling gets me 20ish minute runs when I build up the courage to que as tank. Those sound 100% like trash dps issues
    (3)

  6. #32966
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    been spamming dungeons this last week. (almost got everything to 80! so close)

    got two tales - a 35 min qitana ravel run with a tank who single pulled the entire time, and a 45 minute dohn mheg run, again with single pull tank.

    i knew single pulling made dungeons take longer but by god i didnt realize it would be *THIS* bad.
    By the looks of it, it sounded like only 1 player in that party who put an actual effort.
    (0)

  7. #32967
    Player
    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Baconeater View Post
    Sounds like tank was not the problem - crap DPS not killing stuff fast.
    To be fair, DPS cant kill stuff fast if the tank is waffling about and kiting what little mobs they have, and DPS have to run around cancelling casts or trying to target stuff, which is what went on both runs.

    My handy dandy calculator says both of us DPS were outputting similar damage to other dungeons, and bosses took the normal amount of time to kill. And another “to be fair.” these were two dungeons out of the dozens where tanks would double pull, or where I was with a friend tank.
    (3)

  8. #32968
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miles064 View Post
    Yeah, no. I single pull cause I'm a tank scaredy cat and my opinion of randoms in this game is mad low(imagine having huge parts of your kit that you just refuse to use for some reason?). Even single pulling gets me 20ish minute runs when I build up the courage to que as tank. Those sound 100% like trash dps issues
    Hey, I was a scared tank once too. But it takes realizing that tanking 2 packs of mobs is the same as tanking 1.
    THOUGH:
    i agree with your comments about randoms - like jesus christ theres a handy dandy extra button you could press that just, magically increases your DPS output! insane, right? *USE IT*

    but unfortunately “calculating” it, us DPS were outputting pretty average damage for those dungeons. and like i said above, bosses were dying in a relatively normal timeframe.
    (1)

  9. #32969
    Player
    Miles064's Avatar
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    Elisandra Voras
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Hey, I was a scared tank once too. But it takes realizing that tanking 2 packs of mobs is the same as tanking 1.
    THOUGH:
    i agree with your comments about randoms - like jesus christ theres a handy dandy extra button you could press that just, magically increases your DPS output! insane, right? *USE IT*

    but unfortunately “calculating” it, us DPS were outputting pretty average damage for those dungeons. and like i said above, bosses were dying in a relatively normal timeframe.
    Power pulling is only better when people dont play like trash. If someone speaks up that they want to pull more(they dont most of the time, this game is mad passive aggressive) I have no issues doing so. Not going to waste my time and put more burden on the healer if the dps are going to st poorly with 7 targets pulled though. I guess for myself even if I single pull I move to the next mob at a good pace. 45 mins though? That sounds like way more then just single pull tanking or I just happen to single pull really fast somehow.

    Not a slight towards you or anything but this would be way easier if FF community wasn't so scared of parsers btw. Don't need to guess when you got data.
    (1)

  10. #32970
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    LuciaMirain's Avatar
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    Character
    Erzulie One
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    7 sprouts and me, the very tired mentor.
    1 angry tank that pulls and pulls and dies and doesnt wait for explanations. Sees my text directions in chat as me being snarky "please tank her north" "please stack at the beginning of phase 2".
    1 angry healer that asks if all mentor have their head so far up their ass as I do.

    1 very tired mentor still takes the time to explain the mechanics over and over again while the rest pleade with the two angry ones to let the mentor explain so we can clear (I did make ONE snarky comment after the third wipe when the tank said he was new to the instance which was "I can tell".)

    1 very tired mentor takes the team to clear after 45 minutes.
    1 very tired mentor is very close to quitting at this point.

    Just another Shiva Ex.
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