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  1. #61
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    TristanX's Avatar
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    Rhythalia Everlight
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I've been getting many WoD on DR these days. None of them failed. Playing on Tonberry server though.
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  2. #62
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    Stepjam's Avatar
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I've had the occasional shitshow WoD, but rarely to the point that we outright couldn't clear. Maybe 1 or 2 wipes tops.
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  3. #63
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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Even on the plague of a DC known as Crystal, I rarely see WoD wipe that hardcore. You either have some insanely bad luck, or are contributing to the reasons for them failing that often.

    The content is 8 years old and is the only CT raid that requires people not be practically braindead to complete, so it's a lot more fun to see that pop up than LotA or ST. It doesn't need nerfs, players need to stop expecting everything to be a no-brain faceroll that they can Netflix their way through and still win.

    If anything, a better solution to bad WoD runs would be going back and adjusting the min ilevel sync for LotA and ST, to make them at least somewhat less curbstomp than they are now. It'd teach people to pay attention and do mechanics.
    This 100%. The only reason WoD gets a bad rap is the other two sections of crystal tower are badly undertuned. WOD is still "easy" difficulty, but LOTA/ST aren't even on the spectrum of difficulty. They're just free.
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  4. #64
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    Jettinson's Avatar
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Initially as a newbie I dreaded to do WoD but now It is nice compared to the other 2 CT raids.
    At same time it can be annoying if people do not pay attention but overall it is not that hard.

    But the answer is no, I haven't seen anything that bad in completing WoD and I played in both EU DC as well as the other 3 NA DC to compare. We get some of those wipes, even 2 or 3 wipes in first boss but then it goes well. We even get wiped against chimeras too which can be discouraging but nothing to be ashamed of.

    And I legit enjoy the raid now
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  5. #65
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    Gullis's Avatar
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    Gullis Hil
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Im pretty new to this game overall, but have done some WOD runs, and never had this problem. I think you were just unlucky. Leaving penalties exists for a reason, and should stay as they are though imo.
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  6. #66
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    World of Darkness is on the same level of Nabriales.

    If it shows up, I instantly leave and go bake cookies for 30 minutes instead because something will be accomplished within that time frame instead of repeated wipes to 8 year old mechanics.
    and Aurum Vale.
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  7. #67
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    BokoToloko's Avatar
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    Boko Toloko
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Sorry, but I really can't relate to that. Even on the worst runs, I've always got the instance done with just some wipes in the first boss. Makes me wonder how can you get such a horrible ratio of disbands per amount of WoD hits in the Duty Roulette.

    What I'd REALLY love is for them to fix the issue of Crystal Tower raids being the ones to almost always appear in the Duty Roulette. Kinda hard, given it's pretty much a must for any new player and it's a grinding step for the Resistance Weapon, but more incentives to do Ivalice raids or Mhach would be great. I'm at a point where I'd rather constantly get Orbonne or Dun Scaith, despite them being more difficult than WoD.

    On closer reading, it seems more like "failed run" means "run you abandon at the first sign of trouble", since current system should allow your party to abandon without penalty and what you want is to dodge said penalty for yourself.
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    Last edited by BokoToloko; 11-15-2021 at 07:40 PM.

  8. #68
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    Asari5's Avatar
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    we should just remove any a-raid from the roulette except lota and syrcus... i guess that would make some people very happy.

    on second thought... lets do it and create another a-raid-roulette for all the removed raids so i dont have to see lota and syrcus ever again
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  9. #69
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    World of Darkness is already super raid friendly even full of sprouts. Most of the time I see it fail either players think they have superior dps and ignore adds/mechanic or just don’t understand the mechanic. Simple explaining usually get the boss in next few attempt

    If they struggle with World of Darkness, they will struggle ever harder in dun scaith and especially The Orbonne Monastery.

    Alliance raid in ShB already feel dump down compare to older one, we should not ask for more nerf on alliance raid as they aren’t hard once player figure out the mechanic.

    Players should encourage to learn the content and if no progress being make after few attempts I am sure majority will come to conclusion a vote in abandon is the only option
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  10. #70
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    Tanis_Ebonhart's Avatar
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    Klee Zunners
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    Midgardsormr
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    Monk Lv 88
    I find just assigning one group to go in the belly works.

    When I'm tanking it I make it my group and just tell them to follow me.
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