Regarding the “it took 8 years to get a proper summoner” argument. I doubt SMN will have as much praise as its hype gives it. It’s shallowness has been well documented and is a hot topic right now since they didn’t even try to meld the two aspects together and just seems like Ruin spamming not summoning, with yet again the only 2 summons with even less control. It’s praised mostly due to it being pretty, with very very few topics about the kit at hand and if it’s about it it’s usually how straight forward and toothless it is compared to likes of DNC and MCH. If you want a rework you never liked BRD to begin with and if you never liked BRD to begin with go try other jobs rather than simplify and doll up one with the most ridiculous complaints I’ve seen.

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First sentence I don’t even know what your complaining about with OGCDs, as all jobs have them. Like saying “MCH doesn’t have machines it has OGCDS!” Well yea duh…also I don’t know when you fell out of BRD but it’s songs originally regened TP and MP which are mechanics that don’t exist in the game anymore, see also Invigorate, Goad, Mana Shift ect. Having said this even it’s first incarnation in 2.0 was heavily Archery with stuff like Wide volley, flame arrow, quelling strikes, Hawkeye and how straight arrow used to work. Hence why I rather focus on improving on what the devs have it at now than back then

I won’t disagree with your opinions on BRD as job identity is very important to me, but mechanical depth in rangers is a loosing game with how skewered bard is it’s still more depthful than MCH and DNC, and is spilling over to Magical ranged now that SMN is more flare than function. Which normally I agree with when talking to BRD mains…but theirs a very distinct difference between them and you

I won’t judge Radiant Finale until launch and I’ve seen lazier skills tbh, but it’s more flexible than divination which doesn’t even exist anymore and can be said is a “lazy rehash of <insert Generic buff skills with 120 seconds here> skill”