Veteran opinions on Scholar?

[Deceptus]

My main problem with Scholar is that their Capstone abilities actively conflict with each other and no other job (perhaps save SMN) has that restriction. Other jobs, (including Summoner) build up their resources and have moments of pure power. SCH's build them up and then they Fizzle. Come Endwalker the ONLY use for their Fairy Gauge will be Fey Union.

Dissipation completely goes against the base lore of the job. You are supposed to work WITH your fairy not send them away for power. While dissipation is activated you can't gain any fairy stacks and are locked out of ALL of your fairy utility and the bonus healing only affects THREE buttons. Physic, Adlo, and Succor. That's it. You lose something like 3K potency worth of Embrace and all other utility for 3 Aetherflow stacks, a terrible trade.

Fey Union is nothing more than a directed, Roused regen on a specific target. Which didn't need to exist because we USED to be able to target Eos/Selene to whomever we needed.

Seraph is clunky, the AI is STILL bad after years.

But remember, the Devs couldn't find any way to improve Scholar. Despite literal hundreds of pages of feedback.

Some people say Scholars were absolutely overpowered for ARR and HW (They simply had a very well designed kit IMHO), but that was 6 years ago and they shouldn't be still punished for something the developers put into place.

A bigger problem? The fact that SE wants to have Barrier (shield) healers / and Pure (regen) healers but won't commit to either.

SCH's have 3 Regens (if you count the fairy) and the Pure healers have substantial shielding capability (WHM gets 2 free charges of Benison in EW).

[Anhra]

A bigger problem? The fact that SE wants to have Barrier (shield) healers / and Pure (regen) healers but won't commit to either.

SCH's have 3 Regens (if you count the fairy) and the Pure healers have substantial shielding capability (WHM gets 2 free charges of Benison in EW).

My biggest guess on that, why they even bothered to "splitting up" Healers like that, is tgat they think it will keep "competitive" endgame raiding in check, so that noone gets the wild idea to pair up AST & WHM for over the top Healing capabilities which will skyrocket so high, that everyones behind turns into solid gold.

[LaughingBanana]

I like it, although I must admit I am struggling with it more than I do White Mage and Astrologian, especially when Tanks do big pulls.

[Asari5]

i really like the flow of the job. yeah i miss some skills from back in HW, but that doesnt mean i dont like the job anymore. the fairy will react faster soon. dmg is boring as hell (but thats a healer problem).
i like the toolset too, only thing i miss is an instant shield

[Jeeqbit]

First of all, Aetherflow, and everything thats attached to it. It is more a fluff "mechanic" than it has its actual use. You could remove it entirely, give all related Spells to it multiple charges at 30+ Seconds CD and you wouldnt even realize its gone.

Aetherflow is the main mechanic of scholar and I use it all of the time. It's only considered fluff by people who are not using scholar properly. Making this change would make it impossible to use Lustrate 3-6 times in a row which is sometimes useful in big pulls even after you have stacked up all the regens. Aetherflow has a nice "flow" to it as well.

[Silver-Strider]

Honestly at this point its a mix of masochism and begrudging respect I developed for the job after every static I've been in has forced me into the class since ARR.

Fights only punish 2 SCHs if they're unaware of what their co-healer is doing. Whenever I get thrown into a Raid/Trial or whatever with another SCH, I typically just be mindful of their Aetherflow and Fairy abilities used. I've become pretty adapt at holding off from using my toolkit while my co-healer is throwing their entire codex as something as simple as a raid wide and once they're out of it, they resort to Adlo/Succor and then I know its my turn to heal. Am I a jerk for letting my cohealer do mostly all the work? Meh, both of us wasting our oGCDs at the same time is a lot more inconvenient in the long term than the short term; if we're both tapped out, chances are things have gone very wrong and we're all screwed then so its just better this way.

Fairy Glam choice is terrible and at this point they should just merge them into 1 button if they aren't going to be fundamentally different. Selene's raid buffs might have been more hindrance than helpful but at least she did something different and I do miss AoE Esuna on occasion (namely when Mentor would throw me into Oden). It was a terrible change and I will continue to advocate that SE rectify it. Pet AI will forever be jank no matter how much resources throw at it but I've learned to live with it.

I haven't even bothered to look at SGE in depth since potency is subject to change and I honestly don't care enough about the job to really comment on if it will outclass SCH or not.

The class incentives you to get good utilizing your toolkits, limitations and all, in order to make it so that you don't lose your mind when you get a cohealer that can't pull their own weight and I expect a lot of SGEs that can't pull it together come EW so I'll just take the safe option.

[juicybug]

Watching Scholar "mains" spam succor and Physick nonstop while simultaneously ignoring the existence of their fairy and hoarding Aetherflow stacks more ferociously than a dragon hoards it's treasure. Never activating Chain Stratagem, and on the rare occasion they do, never using it again when it comes off cooldown. Capped off with an absolute refusal to use Dissipation for any reason whatsoever.

DF healers are wild man.

Or not paying attention to the other Chain Stratagem, and stacking over the current placed by another SCH before it's finished

[Rongway]

- First of all, Aetherflow, and everything thats attached to it. It is more a fluff "mechanic" than it has its actual use. You could remove it entirely, give all related Spells to it multiple charges at 30+ Seconds CD and you wouldnt even realize its gone.

I hear people get excited about charges a lot and I think some people don't really understand how charged abilities work. In particular, charges don't allow you to use actions "more often". Charges just eliminate the drift caused by not using an ability the very instant it cools down. So putting three charges on an action doesn't mean you can use it three times as often; it just means that you can afford to hold on to a charge so that you can use it at exactly the right time instead of being forced to use every single cooldown the moment it's available. Beyond the one or two extra charges that you start with, you still only get one use every (recast time) seconds.

If you want to convert the Aetherflow mechanic to a charge system, the five Aetherflow actions would have a shared recast timer of 20 seconds with 3 max charges. And this would turn out to be a nerf compared to the Aetherflow system because if you spent all three charges one after the other, you would have to wait 17.5s for the next charge, 37.5s for a second charge, and 57.5s for a third. This is markedly worse than now, where in the span of two GCDs it's possible to spend all three charges and immediately regain all three charges to be used again in the next two GCDs, using six charges in the course of ten seconds if you really wanted to, without eating your faerie.

[Caurcas]

Ignoring the bland dps kit issues. While we have to wait and see how things pan out, by far the best way to make SCH stand out is continue and expand its ability to pull off some nutty stuff and no sell certain mechanics to the party's benefit. For example look at how in E10s with enough shielding and a tank LB you can completely skip the most annoying mechanic, and to do so you need a SCH.

[PaulH]

I think theres more wrong than right with SCH in its current state and in Endwanker as well, if the Skills get inplimented as they have been revealed to us.

Interesting name for the expansion - typo I know but it made me chuckle :-).

Scholar is more than fine with current content and looking forward to seeing how it plays in EW but I worry even more broil weaving with the 1.5 gcd change may drive me mad which no leeches can remove.