Nothings changed in tos that effects my game play.

[Raoul9753]

I mean i understand where you are coming from, i think most of it has to do with cultural differences. On the japanese datacenters it is normal to disband after like 2 wipes. While on NA (and sometimes EU) it's more common to just kick people and search replacements. But SE is going mostly after their culture and rules.

Just as a funfact they disband cause it's impolite to waste each others time, they don't flame or blame.

So only time will tell how much or less that will affect NA and EU, we will have to wait and see.

Hmmm... I have to admit, that I failed to take the cultural aspect into consideration. Politeness, even in situations where honesty would be better called for, is one aspect that seems to be very dominant in japanese culture after all. I just hope they will also take other cultures into account when handing out punishments...

I guess you are also right when saying that only time will tell. I just hope the new ToS wont be abused. But lets wait and see, i guess thats really the best thing we can do.

[Endariel]

I actually wonder who at se thought it was ok to apply japanese "vision" (where WE is more prominent than I) on western audience (where it's the exact opposite)

[Sigiria]

Gotta love how they went out of their way to clarify that nothing actually changed and a GM will always look at the context of a report before taking action but people are still going "omg trolls are gonna get us on technicalities and we'll all get banned if we talk!!"

Seemed pretty obvious from the example they gave that they just wanted people to not escalate things. If someone's having trouble with a mechanic for any reason, barking orders at them ain't gonna make a difference. Whether they're trolling or just struggling.
If you expained the mechanics and the person is ignoring the explanation, don't double down just move on. And if they're trolling report them. I'm pretty sure if you say "please don't stand in the aoe marker" and the person reply "lol, you don't pay my sub" they're in more trouble than you are.

[lezard21]

"It doesn't affect me so it means it's fine UWU BEANS"

[_Pigzig]

hey man i need some faults corrected too
which means golden rule - i need to tell others they are bad

[Kaurhz]

To be fair if people read the 'Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV' article, they would have known that nothing changed in terms of communication-related matters, they merely added examples as to what constitutes a violation.

[Saefinn]

I'm not concerned by the update, ultimately they're there to prevent people from talking crap to others in game and I don't do that anyway. I guess maybe the only thing I will approach it with is "does anybody need to know the mechanics?" or on a wipe, "is anybody unclear on the mechanics we can help with?", which I often do anyway and something I see others do too, it gives an opportunity for somebody who is having problems to get help with it. If people aren't learning, have a poor attitude or aren't willing to engage.

I'm also the kind of player who actually likes to go in blind on stuff I am new to because I enjoy the experience of learning the mechanics. But I normally deal with that but ensure chat is turned off, but I'm also confident enough in my abilities for it to not be a detriment to the party.

However, I feel like this update just formalises what they already do and I think helps clear up some of the vagueness of their ToS interpretations we've been complaining are too vague for a long time.

How exactly does a new player pull off learning to heal a dungeon by themselves? Not being snarky I just can't figure out how one would do it.

They would start in the Hall of the Novice and learn the basics. They could also learn in Guildhests, which start at level 10, so they're in a way preparing them for dungeons. And Satasha is very low intensity and the difficulty gradually builds from there.

[SturmChurro]

I've never been contacted by a GM in any game I have ever played actually. Top that.

Now the forums on here..

[Hatfright]

...do we really need another tread about this?

[Myrany]

They would start in the Hall of the Novice and learn the basics. They could also learn in Guildhests, which start at level 10, so they're in a way preparing them for dungeons. And Satasha is very low intensity and the difficulty gradually builds from there.

Hall of novices yes but that is pretty scaled down compared to actual guildhests or Sastasha. GUildhests and Sastasha involve other people. Now if the distinction is being made between early dungeons with other people as opposed to learning before you EVER go into something with other people then that makes a degree of sense. The comment I was responding to made it seem like it was inappropriate to ever go into content with other people unless you already had learned.