Trust needs to be applied to pre-ShB yesterday

[yajnaji]

Not only because of the increasing toxicity (or complete lack of any type of empathic communication) in groups since this new age, but personally lately I've been only able to play at ungodly hours and it's nearly impossible to get a dungeon queue in less than 1 hour as a dps, so leveling alt dps jobs has been a slog and a pain in the darkest pit.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Do some solo potd 50-60 runs, saves you an hours wait and you might find you enjoy it. Be sure and get some pots!

[Jeeqbit]

Changes have been made to the trust system to make it usable by more developers so we may see it at some point but obviously not while an expansion is being finished.

[ItMe]

IIRC during the media tour Yoshi said they were working on this specifically and they will hold off on saying more at least until the post launch live letter.

[_Koneko_]

did you try the deep dungeons?

[Omedon]

did you try the deep dungeons?

Deep dungeons are not the same experience as a trinity-compliant dungeon group. I liberally used HoH for healing jobs in the dead zone between squads and trusts because a solo healer is very self sufficient, but the “solo in parallel” experience of deep dungeons is far less friendly to squishier DPS jobs.

On topic and regarding the OP: Yes. Yes to all of it. At minimum we need one of the two NPC dungeon party systems bracketing the 60’s to stretch into the 60’s, preferably trusts.

[Stepjam]

Well it's not quite so simple. First they gotta manually program each character's AI to perform mechanics (it isn't like the AI is actually solving it on it's own) which takes time and Second there's the issue of who would actually go in with you. In ShB and (presumably) EW, the story makes sure that you have enough buddies so that there can be a tank, a healer, and 2 DPS no matter what, meaning you need a minimum of 4 npcs at any dungeon at any given time ehich would potentially require rewriting old quests (even if just to say "hey, we recruited some random schmucks from nearby").

It's not the simplest thing to fix is what I'm saying. Though they did say they made the ai programming simpler to use while developing EW so people other than the lead dungdon designers can comfortably use it. So they might have a b team start working on older dungeons over time.

[TheMightyMollusk]

If not trusts, maybe squadrons could be bumped up through Stormblood to cover the gap a bit.

Totally not just that I want the Grand Companies to actually be relevant again for a bit, I swear.

[GeminiReed]

.. meaning you need a minimum of 4 npcs at any dungeon at any given time ehich would potentially require rewriting old quests (even if just to say "hey, we recruited some random schmucks from nearby").

This is already baked in. When presented with many duties they'll come with a suggestion to gather "your adventurer friends". If reusing story NPC's is that much of a hassle supplying us with an unrelated squad should be a no brainer.

[Almandaragal]

did you try the deep dungeons?

I have; no dice. If the DPS queues are 20+ minutes, I'm not getting HoH to pop, either. I legitimately don't think I've cleared 21-30 yet because each of the dozen or so times I've tried queuing, I'm still sitting at 1/4 or 2/4 after 15-20 min, at which point I could have been about to get a roulette to pop. I mean, I don't really even like deep dungeons, but I would have used them in that terrible 61-70 block for alt jobs if they would have ever had enough people to queue in.