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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minnel View Post
    I am not complaning and genuinely asking out of curiosity. I just finished Msqs but am lost on what to do on duty roulettes. People were fine with me going 1 mob at a time but I'm guessing thats because it was my first time and I was geared just enough to run the dungeon.
    Yes and No. You should not feel obligated to pull more than you are comfortable with and/or your healer can comfortably deal with.

    You will notice a lot of dungeons have roadblocks set in place to prevent wall to wall pulls (for example, killing the final mob drops a key or door lever or some such), so no- the game is designed to dissuade wall-to-wall pulls, but if you can and are comfortable doing so, by all means.

    I tend to grab a single pack, and see how fast the party downs it. Then maybe a bigger pack until I see somebody struggle or my HP dangerous..then I know about how much I can do. No use pulling a big pack if the DPS doesn't dodge AoE, or if the healer is not on the ball. It might be slower, but I'd rather go slower than wipe several times.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Yes and No. You should not feel obligated to pull more than you are comfortable with and/or your healer can comfortably deal with.
    You will never improve at something without leaving your comfort zone on it. If you do not try, you will not get.

    Also, you will never know what people are able to deal with until you try it. I've had so many parties where it's so clear we can handle big pulls, and the tank just refuses, because he's too scared. Some of these runs are still with big pulls, but because the dps or healer pulls the second set of mobs, and then tanks the mobs in front of the tank, who in some cases is throwing a fit so they won't get aggro, yet the dps or healer survives anyways.

    I cannot stress this enough, things do not hit hard enough in most dungeons. If a healer can tank 1 pull, you can tank 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    You will never improve at something without leaving your comfort zone on it. If you do not try, you will not get.

    Also, you will never know what people are able to deal with until you try it. I've had so many parties where it's so clear we can handle big pulls, and the tank just refuses, because he's too scared. Some of these runs are still with big pulls, but because the dps or healer pulls the second set of mobs, and then tanks the mobs in front of the tank, who in some cases is throwing a fit so they won't get aggro, yet the dps or healer survives anyways.

    I cannot stress this enough, things do not hit hard enough in most dungeons. If a healer can tank 1 pull, you can tank 2.
    I mean, your mileage may vary. Some people genuinely aren’t comfortable with it, and it’s not like it makes that big of a difference in the end. If we were talking 30 min dungeon vs an hour I’d get it, but we’re talking a savings of like, 5 minutes..maybe 10?

    If my healer or tank simply isn’t comfortable with big pulls, we’re still going to clear the dungeon, which ultimately is the point.

    I’d rather we all have a good time so that said tank/healer can eventually try larger packs than scare off a player or make them feel they can’t tank or heal. Need all the healers and tanks we can get to keep my dps queues down.

    I guess ultimately sure, there is a need for a trial by fire to “git gud”, but a random pug dungeon ain’t it.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 10-14-2021 at 01:38 PM.