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    The real question is why did Thancred take up GNB in the first place when it used a weapon he was incapable of maintaining by himself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    The real question is why did Thancred take up GNB in the first place when it used a weapon he was incapable of maintaining by himself?
    I actually used to wonder that myself, but if you think about it it actually makes sense. Just because he needs someone to imbue his ammunition for him now and again does not negate the obvious benefit of being able to use aether again in any capacity, so if anything I'd say it's a good fit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    The real question is why did Thancred take up GNB in the first place when it used a weapon he was incapable of maintaining by himself?
    He can no longer manipulate aether himself, Gunbreaker is probably the only job where someone else can do the manipulating of aether ahead of time for you and the end user just has to remember which cartridges are which and trigger the effects when needed.

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    Gunbreaker is sort of like a DnD Wizard if you think about it, just with a gunblade and cartridges instead of a spellbook and spells. It's the same preparing abilities ahead of time and triggering them when needed sort of magic though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    He can no longer manipulate aether himself, Gunbreaker is probably the only job where someone else can do the manipulating of aether ahead of time for you and the end user just has to remember which cartridges are which and trigger the effects when needed.

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    Gunbreaker is sort of like a DnD Wizard if you think about it, just with a gunblade and cartridges instead of a spellbook and spells. It's the same preparing abilities ahead of time and triggering them when needed sort of magic though.
    Been a bit but I'm pretty sure WAR doesnt use aether?

    It isn't a poetic body guard job he could take up before taking charge of Ryne. Nor a job that would allow for their symbiotic relationship.
    But... lore wise it seems like it would have been the better choice, though the less totally appropriate one.



    (If only he'd met a mentor from the east that could teach him how to go from rogue to Ninja he wouldn't have needed to change. After all, the Nin storyline establishes they don't use aether.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Been a bit but I'm pretty sure WAR doesnt use aether?

    It isn't a poetic body guard job he could take up before taking charge of Ryne. Nor a job that would allow for their symbiotic relationship.
    But... lore wise it seems like it would have been the better choice, though the less totally appropriate one.



    (If only he'd met a mentor from the east that could teach him how to go from rogue to Ninja he wouldn't have needed to change. After all, the Nin storyline establishes they don't use aether.)
    Warrior's Inner Beast is probably aether, considering the warrior armor is specifically magicked to make it both call forth and control the Inner Beast.

    Where does the NIN storyline say they don't use aether? The lore book specifically calls ninjas out for using aether.
    "By manipulating the aether present in heaven (ten), earth (chi), and man (jin), and further combining their effects in predetermined sequences, the shinobi is capable of manifesting an impressive array of arcane phenomena."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Warrior's Inner Beast is probably aether, considering the warrior armor is specifically magicked to make it both call forth and control the Inner Beast.

    Where does the NIN storyline say they don't use aether? The lore book specifically calls ninjas out for using aether.
    [double checks Nin questline]
    Oh hey, you're right.
    Sorry, I was mistaken.

    I misrembered this line to say that the energies Ninjas use is similar to aether, and not that we both have 2 different understandings of the same everpresent magical energy.
    Err... that he was saying we had similar energies and not that we had similar understanding of the same one.
    (If that makes sense)

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    Don't worry about it.
    If they want Thancred to do fine with his Gunbreaking abilities they will surely come up with a solution that is explained in a single line of dialogue.
    ShB showed us they have no qualms about coming up with any excuse to fix things for coolness or fanservice sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    The real question is why did Thancred take up GNB in the first place when it used a weapon he was incapable of maintaining by himself?
    Good question but I think it's implied the other hrothgar dude trained him during SB?
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    Correct, the Hrothgar Thancred trained under is introduced in the level 80 GNB quest. Later shows up in Bozja, too.

    He explains he took up the gunblade in ShB for its defensive capabilities (to keep Ryne safe) and, GNB being the "lightest" Tank, it's not too outlandish a transition imo
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