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  1. #11
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Well...the North American media tour is this week, so there is a chance something leaked out of it already...
    Not saying I 100% believe this, but it could be accurate...
    Yeah I’m also never not believe people there is like a 70/30 ration for that and it’s nothing new that we have leaks this early. I mean it’s not hard at home too make a screenshot with the handy from some new abilities and tooltip and send them specific People. So let’s see and wait and do get disappointed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post
    I see, so is most of this extrapolation from the job action trailer? Like the crit/dh requirement for water/water2/FuckYouYou'reABishopNowSoLightIsEverything coming after a crit sfx/crit number display? or is this derived from some other source?

    As for the rest of the stuff, the mitigation thing just seems like a way for healers to carry bad tanks, or for a good heal+tank to carry two bad dps in big pulls that would go on too long for current mitigations to handle well... So, assuming you're correct, people have even less of an excuse to do single pulls now. Neat.

    Everything else I'm iffy on. Forced AOE for lilies seems kind of odd, and can you elaborate on the turret? I thought you would have to damage it to get it to do it's heal pulse.

    this also means there doing stat squishes this all around for monsters and and yourself. new mechanics how much damage tank is gonna take how fast are battles. these changes are needed. to adjust to over all combat experience. so basically in end-walker the combat is much. much more fast pace

    Still, I would like a sauce for this info, even if it's just an anonymous leaker or smth. If it's just speculation, than say so, rather than get my hopes up like this :<
    I'll explain this one aspect of the game. not so much as raiding or end game raiding. new holy 2 watch rewards lilies note the word reward. it made me curious about that word. however its basically to adjust to current tanking meta who seems to enjoy pulling large packs of trash monsters normally around from start of the dungeon all way to boss. not being able produce enough lilies or shoot out enough miseries becomes a problem. as well lowering cast time 1.50 like they said they would for all healers. over all. trying make the game "faster" they want you to do make healer dps most of the time and weave heal don't while keeping dps. so overall gameplay be much faster. seem to use rewarding good game play all over this expansion to try encourage things

    why do think cast times reduced 1.50. why do you think these cool-downs are buffs added to the healers. did you think monsters you gonna fight there abilities wont warrent the use of this. specially when your and teammates gonna take "more" damage. maybe tanking cooldowns aren't gonna be enough to halt the amount of damage they gonna take

    now have to ask yourself? your not seeing it but whole pacing of the game changing right before your eyes. the actions per min is basically gonna double. cant look at this with shadow bringers eyes need see this is end walker eyes. game gonna be so fast-paced that it warrant these changes, out of all the jobs revealed have not noticed that speed of the game is changing drasticly combat is gonna be much more fast pace.
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    Last edited by VictoriaLuv; 09-29-2021 at 10:51 AM.

  3. #13
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    You're still avoiding one basic question. Where did you get this list of "supposedly true" WHM changes? Because unless you provide a credible source, it looks like you just made these up using what little info we got from the EW Job Actions trailer and the LL powerpoint on WHM. It feels like these are more along the lines of "What I believe WHM should get", instead of these being exactly what SE is implementing, especially considering you made some posts earlier about what you think DRK, PLD, and Beastmaster should have.

    People have every right to be skeptical about these, as there hasn't been ANY OFFICIAL news about jobs and abilities in EW since the Live Letter. The fact that you just happen to know this info reeks of trolling. Plus, if it turns out that you've been lying, you're gonna be ridiculed for god knows how long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doru_Nintendan View Post
    You're still avoiding one basic question. Where did you get this list of "supposedly true" WHM changes? Because unless you provide a credible source, it looks like you just made these up using what little info we got from the EW Job Actions trailer and the LL powerpoint on WHM. It feels like these are more along the lines of "What I believe WHM should get", instead of these being exactly what SE is implementing, especially considering you made some posts earlier about what you think DRK, PLD, and Beastmaster should have.

    People have every right to be skeptical about these, as there hasn't been ANY OFFICIAL news about jobs and abilities in EW since the Live Letter. The fact that you just happen to know this info reeks of trolling. Plus, if it turns out that you've been lying, you're gonna be ridiculed for god knows how long.
    It's also a two fold problem, because IF the information is true, there would most certainly be a ban on them for the forum, posting insider information on the official forums. However, Square Enix won't immediately do it, because that would be the same as confirming the information.

    At this point, I'd say the info isn't true, simply because no one knows anything, and all staff are under an NDA, meaning, especially if posting on the forums, they could back track to them.
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    Some of those things sound kinda fun - I like the idea of some stuff getting procs in particular. But you've got a bit of a credibility problem, so we don't really have any choice but to take this with a mountain of salt.

    So one way or another, we're stuck waiting to see what things might actually be like.
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    I'll believe this enough to make white mage my main healer until end walker and get the relic. Don't let me down
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    The main reason why I don't believe it to be true is the fact that OP said that Divine Benison has 3 charges. Yoshida said it will have 2.
    But then again, there can be mismatches between the Live Letter and the Media Tour build. (just like there were differences between the job action trailer and the gameplay being shown by Yoshida during the live letter)
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    Nothing should be taken on faith without evidence sans your religion. So unless you answer to the 12 in real life and have a vested interest in wearing long white robes to your place of employment; the best strategy remains wait and see. There is a reason, surprisingly I know /s, why things are revealed via a schedule. If your aim was to ease the suffering of disappointed players, thats commendable to an extent. So I won't give you the 'rules waffle', regardless of how accurate that is.

    This game has a horrendous job balance history and you've not got long to wait. So unless you can cite an official reference, I suggest you do so, rather than speculate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    wait you didn't watch live letter did you? here let me do you a solid pull it out for you cause you don't seem have your facts straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVcgZ8dtD0. watch the white mage watch the yoshi-p talks about white mage. then come back when got some facts then come talk to me or us. have a nice day hope we civil conversion when you decide stop being hater and acting salty scholar main. but

    what should be deleted is fact how toxic/salty your being. people get banned on this threads/forums doing lot less then you do mind you. might want try be little nicer. less hostile. i wouldn't want anything to happen to your forum posting rights <3
    You're being overly defensive here. Such reaction tell me something of your post and people have every right to doubt your credibility.

    First, we've seen everything during LL. The information is official. If there are something new, they will definitely show us during Job Action section

    Second, your title included keyword "100%", and you said " spoiler". While most people can only speculate the incoming changes in EW, you made it so certain as if you're actually working for Square Enix. Even if you were Square Enix employee, such leaks never happened before.

    Third, from the perspective of current healers, your list of changes are so unreal. 20% damage reduction from Protect, and with additional shield/barrier added to that? It's way too powerful, so powerful that makes me doubt the competence of job designers. Not to mention the powerful dps spell in your list. You see, devs confirmed themselves that EW healers are built on Shb healers. They have been very careful about giving us more DPS options. Now you say not only are we going to have a instant cast dps spell, but also properties of guaranteed Direct Hit and Crit tied to it...

    I'm sorry. Although your list of changes looks interesting and I would definitely welcome these changes if they were true, the credibility left so much room for doubt. The format of your list looks unpolished. Even Blizzard leaks have better writing. It would be nice if you simply provide us your source of information.
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 09-29-2021 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    oh? fake news. you know people said same thing about summoner. they never gonna summon primals. well look at them now pretty sure we all heard the "It breaks the lore or we cannot summon big things cause its not single player game before but.. hey? we can summon primals. so tell me what did scholar get this time again? wasn't anything impressive you sound salty? you mad. its called subject to change. saying something that players have hoped for sense the start isn't gonna happen. kinda pointless now. so them adding water spells to the game. isn't so fair fetched specially when all healer dps got new dps opinions all cross the board. people been crying out for new damage opinions for a while for all healers. end walker you got that. somethings I said right now. yoshi-p said himself on live letter.

    wait you didn't watch live letter did you? here let me do you a solid pull it out for you cause you don't seem have your facts straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCVcgZ8dtD0. watch the white mage watch the yoshi-p talks about white mage. then come back when got some facts then come talk to me or us. have a nice day hope we civil conversion when you decide stop being hater and acting salty scholar main. but

    what should be deleted is fact how toxic/salty your being. people get banned on this threads/forums doing lot less then you do mind you. might want try be little nicer. less hostile. i wouldn't want anything to happen to your forum posting rights <3
    It's posts like this that make me think you're trolling.

    Because none of the job actions trailer gives the information you've given. Heck the trailer doesn't even show any watery effects used on the enemy for it to be a "Water" spell. None of the tooltips were shown and all will be revealed on the media tour.
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