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  1. #21
    Player
    elioaiko's Avatar
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    Junhee Hatsuharu
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 94
    News flash, healers have always been dpsing. What else are you gonna do when there's nothing to heal?

    Aside from that, judging from how they showed off Holy 2, that Starfall ability, and Sage's dps rotation along their dps/heal ability, it's SE softly acknowledging that healers do indeed dps and that they're incorporating them into their kits, which is nice.

    Truth is that healers will never be able to heal that much in their combat design to enable constant GCD healing, no matter how much they say they will.

    Every encounter is predictable, and the jobs are designed around it. They're not changing every job to accommodate for one role. Plus, healer should not be strictly healing. The stereotype that all you do is heal is superficial, spamming Cure 2/Medica/Cure 3 is as equally boring as spamming Glare, except spamming Glare is actually useful.

    We should encourage SE to add more "support" like buffs and a DPS kit that rewards you for using your heals effectively.
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  2. #22
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    Navnav's Avatar
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    Navaro Reverz
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    If you're raiding and all you do is heal, you're not helping your group.
    WUT!!! did I just read LMFAO
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  3. #23
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    Loonies's Avatar
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    Character
    Loonies Fairytales
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    As an newbe or sprout i just try to survive myself and team members. Often i am flat on the floor.
    So doing damage beside healing is not often done be me, i have a small dot what i use on bosses and an ae spell to use on trash mobs groups but only if the tank still got enough live, mostly not.
    I like doing dungeons but it looks like i am not good enough to do healing and damage at the same time.
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  4. #24
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    Character
    Reika Hanehara
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Lol. I can't imagine the 'fun' to be had trying to play full DPS as a SCH. 0_o
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  5. #25
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    Endariel's Avatar
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    Character
    Riviera Koji
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 42
    That sounds like a low effort bait
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  6. #26
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Character
    Shiru Elysia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Can't wait to see no DPS Sage that will argue they're not DPS even with a healing ressource tied to DPS spell and calling it "bad design".
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  7. #27
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Character
    Liam Harper
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    My argument is that I NEVER want the party topped up, I want constant damage.
    Completely impossible.

    I don't think people realize how impossible this is. The difference between a party of semi-inexperienced players challenging a fight at min-ilv and a well coordinated BiS geared group with a perfect heal map and group mitigation planning is worlds apart. Even if the damage was high enough that the first example had to heal 100% of the time, the skilled group would reduce that to well below half.

    Also, ff14 follows a very strict 1 healer per 4 players composition. A game like WoW you can be flexible, adding more or reducing your number of healers as you learn a fight. This issue means FF14 will always be stuck with a situation where gear+experience results in increasing downtime.

    Obviously incoming damage could be bumped a good bit, but you'd never eliminate downtime, so being able to fill it is important.
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  8. #28
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    BlackTortise's Avatar
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    Character
    Johnny Cake
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Scura,

    I agree with Mikko, the expectation of any successful raid static/pug from the healer class to do both DPS and heal. By not showing that committment, this puts more pressure on the other members who then in-turn will eventually jump ship to another Static or leave party.

    Please forward request in your FC Mentoring Channel and someone who help you out.

    Thank You
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  9. #29
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Scura View Post
    Why do you continue to take away a Healers' main job...Healing?????
    It has been getting worse and worse since Alexander. Why can we not focus on the job we are supposed to be doing...HEALING!!!
    God I wish we'd get treated a bit like dps. At least if that were the case the Devs would consider one-button-spam something completely unacceptable in terms of design. Yet here we are.
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  10. #30
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    baklava151's Avatar
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    L'tanan Tyanu
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Did we watch the same Live Letter? People wouldn't be this pissed if healers had moved more to Green DPS lol
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