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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Why am I not surprised you think that way.
    Because you read the ToS and know that I am right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Because you read the ToS and know that I am right?
    No cause i read a lot of what you post here on this forum and your opinions are quite predictable.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 09-03-2021 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Not cause i read a lot of what you post here on this forum and your opinions are quite predictable.
    I'm flattered to have a fan.

    But to elaborate:

    There is no limitations, neither in the system nor in the ToS, as to how many times and why you relocate so long as you can pay up the fee.
    Likewise, there is no limitations, neither in the system nor in the ToS, as to how much you can put an item for in a vendor. If you put it for a ridiculously price compared to the market media, then no one will buy it.

    Unless they are botting.

    At which point it's your fault.

    You decided to trust a 3rd party program to play the game for you and you found out that the 3rd party program wasn't so smart. As some others have said in this thread, you are responsible for every click you make in the game, or in this case, for relegating the clicking to a program.
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    Last edited by lezard21; 09-03-2021 at 01:27 PM.

  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    You decided to trust a 3rd party program to play the game for you and you found out that the 3rd party program wasn't so smart. As some others have said in this thread, you are responsible for every click you make in the game, or in this case, for relegating the clicking to a program.
    I don't see anyone defending the auto clickers do you? They should be reported and punished by a GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    People want to overlook the fact that both parties are wrong. The bot clickers for sure but also the current batch of people relocating simply to steal their money and then relocate back to their original plots freeing up that house once again. Lets forget now about all the innocent home buyers trying to buy that house while these jokers play their game of transfer and sell along with the auto clicker while no one gets the house they are trying to get even after clicking for hours.

    I've seen auto clickers reported when they continue to click after the house is sold and the GM's should deal with them harshly. I've also been told although I can't personally verify it, that house relocators who have purposely transferred and put up retainers have had that house taken away. You've got to love though those who condone relocating to steal botters money as being a good thing. They are both wrong.



    Why am I not surprised you think that way.

    One has to hope a cool down of 30 days or more is coming on relocations and that relocations themselves which I think are a good thing aren't removed from the housing scene.
    CD on relocation and no priority for relocation.
    Two things I'd like to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    you are correct, they were the ones bringing laws into it.

    however, using a bot program is against the ToS which we all signed. therefore is cheating.

    now, you can semantic cheating any way you like, but its still cheating. semantics just allow the cheater to feel better about doing it by justifying their cheating by saying "the system sucks so I am going to work around the same system the non cheaters use by using this program to give me an edge over them"
    Not defending them, just arguing semantics. People keep saying stuff that just isn't true.

    Key words in my phrase is *laws*. Since no actual law here was broken, it's a rules violation, not a law break.

    Difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    No, anyone who bots to get a house deserves to be banned for using illegal third party software to cheat. And if they weren't botting in the first place, they wouldn't open themselves up to someone taking advantage of their cheating.
    That is the best case scenario.
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    Gotta love people who view clicking your mouse as a task that requires bots. Basically a giant sign over your head that says: "I'm lazy and don't deserve a house, please rob me."

    Got what you deserved buddy.

    Before anyone chimes in with: "I'm not lazy!!! I just have a life," cool bbdoll, so does everyone. People with lives still click on the placard. Just wait till the lottery system comes in for housing in 6.1 and be lazy there.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 09-03-2021 at 09:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    CD on relocation and no priority for relocation.
    Two things I'd like to see.
    There already is a cooldown on relocation, it just isnt long enough(currently its 5 mins). And the reason they get priority is that they arent removing any available houses from the market, just changing the location the available house is in. But you could still greatly improve the feature by changing two things. 1. Lengthen the cooldown on relocation. Easiest way would be to tie it to either the daily or weekly reset(honestly daily would be long enough, but if you wanted to be harsh you could set it to the week). If you need to wait til tomorrow, you probly arent getting your original lot back so the number of people who would be willing to transfer to troll would be greatly reduced. 2. If someone transfers into a lot, rather then re-starting the random purchase timer just transfer the time remaining over to the newly opened lot. This ensures the timer is always getting closer to 0 and a transfer no longer changes how long someone would have to wait for their purchase.
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