The trouble with telling tanks W2W pulls are a mandatory norm.

[Artemiz]

Nice to see the forum superstars are still popping in to tell us all we need to get gud.

Meanwhile in the real world of DF.......

[Artemiz]

Oh man, looks like you can't say anything contrary to the OP without their feelings being hurt. Oh well, I'll jump out of this safe space. Enjoy your single pulls & enjoy the box you trap yourself in by saying you can't do this, can't do that. DUngon2hard

Who said my feelings are hurt? For the record though, I have no trouble tanking as I've been doing it in MMO's for over 15 years. I get frustrated when I'm not the tank, not when I am.
I've also said, several times already that experienced groups can pull big. If you're going to have a little tantrum, at least understand why you're having it.

[Artemiz]

Don't make responses that sound like: "oh, here come the forum pros trying to tell me that I'm wrong!", when people are saying valid responses to you. That is, if you don't want to be perceived this way.

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Not every reply in this thread is a direct response to me personally. That's why in the post you got so triggered by I used the word Us, not I. The point, you so spectacularly managed to miss because you got triggered, is that the git gud response is not especially helpful. It doesn't matter how easy you personally find tanking, because that isn't the point, what matters is players who can't handle W2W think they have to and we all wipe. Comprende? If you could take 5 minutes away from humble bragging, or trying to score internet points you might understand the point of the entire discussion.
My point about the real world of the DF is these forums, in no way represent what actually happens in game. It's like a completely different universe.

As someone who has tanked for 15 years, you should know that tanking in this game is incredibly brain dead, minus the few instances I mentioned in a previous post. We're on the same page on some things; experienced groups can overcome some of the 'harder' things.

My problem is the narrative being pushed that wall to wall is problematic, can't be done, shouldn't be done, etc, just because they happened to do it in one of the places that you CAN'T. The places you can do W2W far outnumber those that you can't.

Sigh, try keeping up, please. It's easy with a well geared (preferably level sync'd) group of experienced players. It is significantly more problematic with a minimum ilevel bunch of sprouts. The problem with telling everyone how easy it is and how it's effectively mandatory is those said sprouts then sprint off to W2W pull when they can't handle it and we all get to wipe. I've been leveling DPS jobs recently and it gets a quite old watching the sproutling tank sprint off as I can just tell what's about to happen.

[TaleraRistain]

Oh man, looks like you can't say anything contrary to the OP without their feelings being hurt. Oh well, I'll jump out of this safe space. Enjoy your single pulls & enjoy the box you trap yourself in by saying you can't do this, can't do that. DUngon2hard

Aren't people who say you *have* to wall to wall the ones trapping themselves? They're announcing to the world they can't handle it if everything isn't absolutely perfect the way they want it. They can't adjust in a variable situation like Duty Finder can be. Maybe they're the ones who need their safe spaces away from all the "bads" they just can't handle.