Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
The reply was to show that clearing an expert dungeon without a healer is possible. Even if you need to wait between pulls for CDs.

It is to set and example that wall to wall pulls are not as hard as people make them seem. If some players can do it without a healer, it should be much easier to do with a healer.

As for the video, you need to type “FFXIV dungeon speed run”. Some runs have healers, others don’t.
I tried to point out in my OP that W2W pulls in expert roulette are not difficult or impressive. That's because I knew this thread would get derailed by arguments like this, they always do. I specifically mentioned a ARR dungeon for a reason, because the problem is (especially on these forums where everyone thinks they are a superstar) that new tanks are given the impression they have to W2W pull or just give up on tanking. I'm just offering up the perspective, as a long time player, and tank, that that is a steaming pile of bollocks.

The sign of a good tank is someone who can accurately judge what his party can do, and provides it for them. My example of pulling the first room of Aurum Vale as a "tester pull" with 3 sprouts is pretty much the exact opposite of accurately judging a party. This happens because newer players think that's what is expected of them, it isn't. Leveling dungeons are significantly harder than 50/60/70/80 dungeons. Treat them that way, and give tanks the room to learn about cooldown management, self sustain etc... instead of getting impatient with them, or obnoxious as I've seem so many times. There is a huge difference between what you can expect from a tank in expert roulette, and what you can expect from one who hasn't even decided where to keybind all his buttons yet.

So just to clarify, yes W2W pulls are expected in Expert roulette, this is not new, it's not hard, and it's not impressive. It's also not Aurum vale with 3 sprouts, or Stone Vigil, or any of the other dungeon that takes a step up in difficulty during the leveling journey.